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I don't think that's the correct take. Both times it was maintain status quo vs a disruptor. The status quo has been terrible for the majority of Americans so they were willing to take the risk on the disruptor. That's the same reason people split ticket voted for both Trump and AOC, they're both disruptors.
Total coincidence it was a woman versus a wildly unfit man both times that the women lost!
Well, no. Both women were picked by the DNC and not by the voters.
A fucking ham sandwich should've won against Trump. A man did.
Biden only won because of how badly Trump fumbled his Covid response. Anyone would have won against Trump in that specific election. In 2016 and 2024 the political climate was very different and the DNC chose basically the only candidates that would lose to Trump. Bernie was/is a disruptor with a big supportive base that could have beat Trump. In 2024 the person who polled the worst against Trump was Biden, the second worst was Harris, yet "unnamed democrat" dominated the polls. Yes, be mad at the voters, but also be mad at the DNC who sacrificed everyone's future to push the status quo instead of embracing real change despite the voters clearly signaling that's what they want.
Bernie couldn't beat Hillary, he didn't stand a chance. The whole idea that Bernie stood a chance against either Hillary or Trump was actual literal Russian propaganda. The only people that like Bernie don't vote, and the ones that do voted for Hillary because she stood a much better chance against Trump. It was never even a little bit close with Bernie, and before you go blah blah DNC collusion (which is also largely ruspublican agitprop) Bernie still would have lost soundly, the Democratic party voters were not going to nominate someone that isn't in the goddamn party. This also ignores the majority of Dem voters are neoliberals and think socialism is a dirty word. Bernie never fucking stood a chance. At all. Whatsoever.