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It doesn’t matter how assertive and athletic a person is. They still go squish when they impact 2 tons of metal at 40 mph.
Forrester is a fucking idiot who has no business discussing traffic.
In the video there’s a quote from Forrester saying the Dutch traffic engineers literally didn’t understand what he was saying so obviously they’re idiots; it’s more like they were trying to figure out where the handlers for this nice but intellectually disabled person were.
Yeah. So do pedestrians. Have you seen the stats in the US? People need to get around, whether it is safe or not.
When there are lots of cyclists on the road, it makes all cyclists (indeed, all road users) safer. Eventually it forces drivers to see roads a shared space for everyone, whether or not they agree with that politically.
There's no reason speed limits on streets people walk and bike on need to be so high. There's no reason motorists should be allowed to operate what's basically heavy machinery in public. There are reasons it is not safe that have nothing to do with the inherent safety of cycling.
Nothing of what you said makes sense of Forrester’s opposition to building dedicated cycling infrastructure - and pedestrian infrastructure.
Many cyclists doesn’t change their squishiness.
We cannot reasonably roll back the dominance of the car with an attitude of “just ride your bike in the road”. That only leads to resentment, opposition, and dead people.
I think you meant to reply to my comment. Yes they do all go squish eventually, really it's not a great idea for anyone. I used to be one of these young athletic assertive riders and it's not sustainable. It's just that only athletic and assertive riders would even be comfortable attempting it, or ever feel that it's adequate for their needs (And they'd be wrong, it's not good enough for anyone, even athletic assertive cyclists are better off with a paved, grade-separated cycleway).
I did but then I read the rest of your comment which is my point - all it takes is one text.
Besides who can ride at 30mph in American cities with the ruts and potholes on one of those carbon fiber bikes with $200 skinny tires?
I used to 😅 but I've also had my share of near-death experiences doing so. And even back then I would have preferred seperate facilities. Anyway sorry for comment hounding.