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Why MAGA supporters are never genises?

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[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Bold of you to assume I'm a MAGA supporter and not just someone who finds your argument and attitude distasteful, especially since it makes my own position worse by association with you.

I.e.: you're acting like a jagoff and making us look worse by conforming to the right's stereotype of their opposition, and you're making a terrible point because some random "child prodigy" having an opinion that agrees with you is a shit argument.

Get over yourself.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, now you are talking much more with a sense. Still, I believe that mocking right-wingers is one of the most efficient way to counter the right wing propaganda, even if it's not in everyone's taste. The right-wing cheap tricks and vulgar propaganda work, the left-wingers over-intellectualism is lost in a mass of Internet garbage. Just look at recent sentiments.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well, now you are talking much more with a sense.

No, now you no longer assume I am your enemy. The fact that you assumed disagreement with you meant supporting everything you disagree with is indicative of a few things, but then again so was your post.

Still, I believe that mocking right-wingers is one of the most efficient way to counter the right wing propaganda

You're free to believe that, even if it were true you're doing a terrible job of this.

"Why are MAGA never geniuses" is not mockery of the right; it's just sad, ignorant, stupid elitism, and anyone who isn't even stupider will immediately see it for what it is.

Moreover, to have any effect on the right you should probably not do it on hands down the most left leaning alternative social media, hence why this comes across as masturbatory self-aggrandizing.

The right-wing cheap tricks and vulgar propaganda work, the left-wingers over-intellectualism is lost in a mass of Internet garbage.

See above, also different types of propaganda work on different audiences.

This would not work on the average right-winger because it shows blatant hypocrisy to your own values, offers nothing they value, and confirms their existing opinion of leftists.

Leftists (socialists, communists, etc) are not supposed to believe in natural hierarchies; saying "this inherently superior person (child prodigy) agrees with an ideology that rejects the notion of inherent superiority (socialism)" is fucking moronic, and shows you are essentially just unthinkingly partisan to the point of revealing you don't actually believe your own principles.

If you did, the fact that someone was considered a child prodigy would not matter to you.

All a right-winger would see when coming across this post is a smarmy, arrogant, not-as-smart-as-they-think, hypocritical left-winger showing their true colors and, despite not being right-wing myself, I would agree.


To add some constructive criticism: Right-wingers already see you/us as the outgroup.

You won't reach them by mocking them, you might reach them by creating a different outgroup they also despise and leveraging that.

If even Margery Taylor Greene, the most unhinged political figure to come out of the MAGA movement broke rank over the Epstein files redaction and the revelation that Trump is not "on her side," that seems to be the only effective way to split their political power.

Mock their idols, mock their ideas carefully, don't mock them.

Nobody would come to the side of people who openly despise them, but they might join you in despising someone else. If you mock a right-winger directly it better be in such a way that 5 others see it and join in.