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I've read in an Article that meat production causes a lot of co² emission. Now I was wondering if we stopped eating meat completely, would that be sufficient to get under the threshhold of emissions what the planet can process? What is that threshold? Where are we now? How much does meat add to this?

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not only does vegansim have the biggest positive impact on the environment that can be made with a personal choice

there simply isn't any reliable data to support this claim.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There is:

https://www.wri.org/insights/climate-impact-behavior-shifts

Other than going car free (not possible in many countries where roads are just not bikable or walkable) not flying (yeah, you probably shouldn't and personally I rarely ever do) and switching your home to green energy (again, not really possible in some countries plus high up fron costs keep it impossible for many) the biggest impact is achieved through veganism.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, I guess that makes sense even without needing a source

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i don't find this paper compelling evidence that being vegan has significant impact. it relies heavily on ivanova(2020), and additionally cites poore-nemecek(2018). ivanova, themselves, rely heavily on poore-nemecek for the data about food impacts.

so the question is: do you trust poore-nemecek 2018? i don't. meta-analysis of LCA studies is bad science, and poore-nemecek not only designed a poor study, they didn't bother acknowledging the problems their methods could incur.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Why don't you bring a source to contradict?

This is absolutely not the only paper to support my claim

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

the rational thing to do, if there is insufficient evidence for a claim, is just to suspend judgement. it's possible their conclusion is correct, but the evidence used to support it is insufficient.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

dismissing your source doesn't require a contradictory study.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

going car free ...not flying ... switching your home to green energy ...veganism.

there are probably a thousand other things people could do. this study, for instance, didn't account for the impact of sabotaging fossil fuel extraction, refinement, or transportation infrastructure. almost anyone can turn a valve. by limiting the scope of this study to consumer choices, they have chosen to artificially limit the possibilities.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That is illegal. while you can choose to do illegal things, it just makes you look like a troll to suggest it as a viable option.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

there are still probably thousands of options besides the four proposed.

[–] WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wow you really want to justify eating meat.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

this accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith