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[–] msage@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is super ironic, as feminism acknowledges mens issues.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It just doesn't always feel like it takes them as seriously

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like when? Can you give me an example?

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conscription, parental treatment especially during custody battles are some of the things often talked about where I live. Especially the former one is one of the most blatant examples of men and women being treated differently. But it's not very high on the agenda for feminist orgs.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you think is high in feminist agenda orgs? Because I don't know what you mean.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their agendas focus on the current biggest issues.

Which, if resolved correctly, would benefit at least your first problem, possibly the second one too.

So I don't see any problem here.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The point was the how little attention it gets. Those agendas isn't going to give anyone who finds that their main thing much hope

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, because, and I say that with love towards you, it's not a main issue right now for society.

I understand that it is the main issue for you right now. And I need you to understand that if that's the case, you are not on the top of the priority list because there are people who are worse off.

If you are currently battling for custody, it sounds terrible, and I feel for you. I can't imagine what's that like. If I can do anything for you, let me know.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't onow if you're joking but you're helping to prove the point.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, yes.

Feminism won't fight for every issue right now.

But it will still help you regardless of what you're missing.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That gets us nicely back to start of the discussion. Feminism might recognize men's issues, it just doesn't consider them very important to deal with right now. Even when it's something like conscription that's the biggest and most blatant legal discrimination there is in my country.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nothing recognizes your specific issues right now, what do you want me to say.

You're supposedly from Finland, which means you are better off than most of the world.

Feminism might make draft more equal. That may not be on top of their concerns, but it's still better than anything else I can think of.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 6 days ago

That's the whole point, it might recognize the issue but it just doesn't care all that much. So of course men aren't all that hot about feminism since they're not seeing it push for issues specifically men are facing.