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[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Where's the evidence of that?

[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There have been several leaks of medical results, here's a Snopes article about one of them:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/20/imane-khelif-medical-records/

Note that the article confuses sex and gender such as here:

Even if the reports published by Ait Aoudia are authentic, however, the alleged findings have been misrepresented. If true, they would not conclusively prove that Khelif "is a man." Instead, as Snopes explains here, they would highlight the reality that, from a scientific standpoint, gender is not actually as binary as some suggest it to be.

Gender is of course not binary, but sex is. The leaked findings show that Khelif is unambiguously male, and has the same condition as Caster Semenya, who is also unambigously male and has fathered several children.

Note that nobody is disputing the leaked findings, merely talking around them, such as saying that it was unethical to leak them. It may have been, but that doesn't change the findings. The IOC itself confirmed that it was a DSD issue. Khelif has refused to take a simple, cheap, non-invasive test that would put the issue to rest, and has even attempted legal action over implementation of sex testing for women's sports.

[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The screenshots shown in Ait Aoudia's reporting are unverified. Snopes reached out to the doctors and hospitals associated with the alleged reports. They either did not respond or would not, as a matter of policy, confirm their authenticity or if Khelif was ever a patient of theirs. Ait Aoudia did not provide Snopes with any details of his source(s).

Is this not enough to stop you from going around claiming she's a male?

[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 55 minutes ago

Why would it? Note that nobody is saying that the leak is fake or edited. The silence is deafening, but also not the only evidence. There's another undisputed leak the confirms the same:

And the IOC itself saying that it's a DSD case:

In total, there are exactly zero people saying "Khelif is female based on medical records", and several different people saying "Khelif is male based on medical records", combined with the IOC stating that it's a DSD issue, which means that Khelif is male. Khelif could remove all doubt with a simple, cheap, non-invasive sex test, so why hasn't that happened?