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[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 30 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

According to the Steam HW survey around 6% of users are still using Pascal (10xx) GPUs. That's about 8.4 million GPUs losing proprietary driver support. What a waste.

GPU    %
1060    1.86
1050ti  1.43
1070    0.78
1050    0.67
1080    0.5
1080ti  0.38
1070ti  0.24

Fixed: 1050 was noted as 1050ti

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

8.4 million GPUs losing proprietary driver support.

Are they all on Linux though?

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Are they supported longer on the windows driver?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Windows doesn't force update your driver and remove support though, and even if it did it won't drop you to some CLI, it will still work.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Rolling distros also only update when you tell them. It is the user who is pulling the trigger on the footgun in both cases.

I'd say the main difference is that arch users are more trigger-happy about being up to date.

Also, I think pacman should at least warn you if the problem is enough to warrant a post on the arch website.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Apparently? Title only mentions dropping the support on Linux. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You don't have to updare your drivers though, isn't this normal with older hardware?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You don't have to updare your drivers though.

Not sure if you're on Windows or Linux but, on Linux, we have to actively take explicit actions not to upgrade something when we are upgrading the rest of our system. It takes more or less significant effort to prevent upgrading a specific package, especially when it comes in a sneaky way like this that is hard to judge by the version number alone.

On Windows you'd be in a situation like "oh, I forgot to update the drivers for three years, well that was lucky."

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

It makes me wonder why the package still auto updates if it detects you're using the driver that would be removed, surely it could do some checks first?

Would be vastly preferable to it just breaking the system.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I believe the same SW version is packaged. Nvidia said they'd drop support in the 580 release, but they shifted it to 590 now.

The arch issues are another layer of headache by the maintainers changing the package names and people breaking their systems on update when a non-compatible version is pulled replacing the one with still pascal support in it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Not really a problem of Arch, but of the driver release model, then, IMO. You'd have this issue on Windows too if you just upgraded blindly, right? It's Nvidia's fault for not naming their drivers, or versioning/naming them in a way that indicates support for a set of architectures. Not just an incrementing number willy nilly.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Windows doesnt drop to CLI and break if the graphics driver is missing. But also GPU driver updates are not forced on you just by updating the system.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

It's 2025, can we not display a warning message in pacman? Or letting it switch from nvidia-590 to nvidia-legacy?

I'm not an arch user, I admit, I don't like footguns.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 17 hours ago

Doubly evil given that GPU prices are still ridiculous.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Interesting, I'm about to move one more machine to Linux (the one that's been off for a while) and I've got exactly 10xx GPU inside lol.