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Great video; Geoff Lindsey has a lot of good content, I strongly recommend his channel (in special his other video he mentions there). What I'm going to comment here is mostly additional trivia, as I watch it.
The diagram he shows around 2:00 should be accurate for East Midlands and London (both are roughly the basis of modern English pronunciation), but around 1400 I'd expect West Midlands and West Country to still have /y:/, perhaps even /ø:/ and /œ:/. AFAIK those front rounded vowels were merged into the unrounded set first in the East.
It also shows an interesting orthographic resource: ⟨ea oa⟩ for mid-open vowels. It made sense, since [ɛ ɔ] are midway between [e o] and [a].
Around 8:05, he mentions the long vowels progressively gliding. That change might look subtle, but it's structurally important, it means the final loss of the long/short vowels contrast. Late Latin showed something similar in spirit, but the end result was simple vowels instead:
with the result being a 5~7 vowels system, /a (ɛ) e i (ɔ) o u/, and no vowel length.
12:30 or so, regarding natural classes, you can summarise the situation roughly like this:
I can't help but agree with his rant that analysing these vowels as long/short pairs by now is a bit silly.
18:30, talking about the phonetic representation of the vowels: it's outside the scope of his video so he didn't mention it, but another silly usage of the IPA to represent English is [ʌ]. That vowel is by no means as backed and closed as the symbol would imply, it's more like [ɐ].