MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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What were did you get that 1 million number lmao
From not all wounded dying.
Asked them all personally? 🤣
So the death count on the eastern front is usually 4-5 million. Least according to the cursory glance on wikipedia before i put this comment up. Where are you getting your number
That's not to speak of all the german settlers that were looking to take advantage of the extended "lebensraum"
A different page on Wikipedia.
But yes, checking a couple more pages there, I do get the same 4 million as a number.
That would be already 20 % of the 20 million. Assumed they are count in that number. But still, 90% are something else. (Also, I've always heard about 60 million as number of Stalin's victims. It feels weird that someone would inflate numbers and get to 20 million when 60 million is often quoted).
No, by the time I was born, they were all dead. That's what dying causes.
This of course brings us back to my original point "if they have to pad the stat with millions of dead nazis, what else are they willing to lie about?"
Also here is a good article debunking these "black book of communism" statistics https://discomfiting.medium.com/debunking-communism-killed-more-people-than-naziism-7a9880696f67
more involved https://jacobin.com/2025/01/black-book-communism-courtois-history
also just for the lols https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2025/12/17/canada-monument-victims-communism-no-names-nazi-controversy
Aha.
It's not nice when Lemmygraders taint decent instances. Mrhmph.
nice comeback
I have heard them before. I was completely able to hear them (or more/precisely: read them.)
I have learned how useful it is to spend time arguing against those arguments. There are arguments against yours and they will get simply ignored.
And obviously, now you say you identify as a tankie. If you identify as a supporter of a country using military force against its own civilians, you support things I see as evil. That does not motivate me to give you the privilege of arguing.
In any case, I wish you a peaceful yule time!