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Abstract

Long COVID (LC) involves a spectrum of chronic symptoms after acute severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection. Current hypotheses for the pathogenesis of LC include persistent virus, tissue damage, autoimmunity, endocrine insufficiency, immune dysfunction and complement activation. We performed immunological, virological, transcriptomic and proteomic analyses from a cohort of 142 individuals between 2020 and 2021, including uninfected controls (n = 35), acutely infected individuals (n = 54), convalescent controls (n = 24) and patients with LC (n = 28). The LC group was characterized by persistent immune activation and proinflammatory responses for more than 180 days after initial infection compared with convalescent controls, including upregulation of JAK-STAT, interleukin-6, complement, metabolism and T cell exhaustion pathways. Similar findings were observed in a second cohort enrolled between 2023 and 2024, including convalescent controls (n = 20) and patients with LC (n = 18). These data suggest that LC is characterized by persistent activation of chronic inflammatory pathways, suggesting new therapeutic targets and potential biomarkers of disease.

Discussion

In this study, we found that individuals with LC were characterized by persistent activation of chronic inflammatory pathways compared with CCs. These pathways included proinflammatory cytokine signaling, complement activation, metabolic dysregulation and immune exhaustion and persisted for more than 180 days. These findings suggest that chronic inflammation may contribute to the pathogenesis of LC and define potential new therapeutic targets.

We observed that participants with LC exhibited reduced granzyme B and cytotoxic T cell signaling and increased immune exhaustion, suggesting dysregulated cross-talk between the innate and adaptive immune responses. Our findings are consistent with prior reports that the IL-6 and JAK-STAT signaling pathways were upregulated in individuals with LC, particularly in those with cardiorespiratory or multisystem symptoms. We also found that chronic upregulation of IFNγ signaling was associated with LC and correlated with signatures of reduced T cell activation and increased T cell exhaustion, suggesting that chronic immune stimulation may lead to functional impairment of T cells. These findings are consistent with prior observations and suggest the potential role of T cell dysregulation and exhaustion in LC pathogenesis.

Our study also confirms and extends prior reports of metabolic dysregulation in LC. We observed a decrease in amino acid metabolism and an increase in corticotropin-releasing hormone signaling, leptin signaling, fatty acid metabolism, bile acid and beta-alanine metabolism in LC. Moreover, these metabolic pathways correlated with proinflammatory pathways in the LC group, suggesting a link between metabolic dysregulation and chronic inflammation. We also observed decreased activity of the telomere maintenance and DNA damage recognition and repair pathways, chromatin regulation and DNA methylation in the LC group. Impaired telomere maintenance could be associated with premature cellular senescence or apoptosis that may impede tissue repair processes.

Our study is limited by relatively small cohorts of individuals with LC who were predominantly female and with symptom clusters that primarily involved fatigue, brain fog and pain. Larger studies from more diverse populations will be required to assess the generalizability of our findings. Nevertheless, we observed good concordance between the 2020–2021 initial cohort and the 2023–2024 validation cohort. Another limitation is the use of bulk RNA-seq, which limits more detailed resolution of pathways at the cellular level. Therefore, future studies should use single-cell transcriptomic and T cell profiling technologies to provide higher-resolution data. Nevertheless, our observations suggest potential therapeutic targets for LC that could be explored in clinical trials. Because the IL-6 and JAK-STAT pathways were among the top upregulated pathways in participants with LC in both the 2020–2021 and the 2023–2024 cohorts, we have initiated a clinical trial to evaluate the therapeutic efficacy of the JAK1 inhibitor abrocitinib for LC (NCT06597396).

In conclusion, our data demonstrate that LC is characterized by chronic inflammation, immune exhaustion and metabolic dysregulation. Current therapeutic efforts are largely focused on antiviral agents to address potential residual viral replication. However, the lack of efficacy of nirmatrelvir-ritonavir in treating LC highlights the need to explore alternative therapeutic strategies. Our data suggests that the JAK-STAT and IL-6 pathways, and the IFN and metabolic pathways, are potential therapeutic targets that could be evaluated for LC.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sure, I will definitely try. I somehow went 5 full years without getting COVID. I feel like shit admitting this but I kind of assumed LC was an overblown thing. Lesson definitely learned I guess.

The consensus of most people (including scientists and most doctors) seems to be that especially in the post vaccination era, LC is not a real concern anymore because it only developed in people hospitalized with severe COVID.

I've been fully vaccinated and boosted every year since 2021, and I finally caught COVID in March 2025. I brought it home and ended up literally infecting my entire family including my elderly relatives and my young child.

All the adults in my family were also vaccinated and boosted, and it was also their first time getting COVID. It's always been somewhat difficult to get the COVID vaccine for kids under 5 in the U.S. compared to other vaccines. We had to really push to even get my child vaccinated, but I don't think she had ever received a booster afterwards. (Even this year the pediatrician only offered a flu shot but not COVID).

Anyway, I brought it home, and I tried very hard not to spread it but eventually everybody got it one by one. I definitely had the most severe case, and I ended up being the only one who developed LC.

Also, because of some ridiculous bullshit going on with my doctor's office, I didn't get to start paxlovid until the last possible day. It's expensive as fuck in the U.S., but it's really an amazing drug. It seemed to start working almost immediately, and I made sure all the other adults in my family started within a day or two of testing positive.

I probably won't ever know for sure why I was the only one to develop LC, but my guess would be:

  1. I was exposed to a much higher viral load than anyone else in my family.

I caught it while I was volunteering in a very crowded free clinic with back to back patients who didn't even realize they were positive until we tested them. So, I spent about 5+ hours in a small confined space getting exposed over and over (we were so packed that day I was literally having to triage people and taking vitals in a very narrow back hallway).

  1. I waited the longest to start paxlovid, and was dealing with pretty severe inflammation for the longest amount of time.

The last day you can start is 5 days after showing symptoms. I literally started on day 5.

  1. I was trying to get better as quickly as possible, and was taking a lot of immune boosting supplements, which probably only contributed to my inflammation.

I remembered that during early COVID (~2020) people were being told not to take things like elderberry because it could increase inflammation and cytokines. Everything I read when I actually got COVID in 2025 seemed to indicate that shouldn't really be much of a concern as long as you're fully vaccinated and healthy.

That was a very bad idea, because even fully vaccinated and boosted for 5 years, the level of inflammation I was dealing with was no fucking joke. My body is still out of whack almost 9 full months later.

I hope you never get COVID, but if you do, I recommend starting paxlovid as soon as possible if you can.

Paxlovid or not, do everything you can to avoid inflammation while you're sick, and try to take it easy for a while even when you're testing negative.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The consensus of most people (including scientists and most doctors) seems to be that especially in the post vaccination era, LC is not a real concern anymore because it only developed in people hospitalized with severe COVID.

That's their consensus for every virus-borne chronic disease. Same shit with Lyme/EBV/etc. Sadly, your experience doesn't surprise me at all. I went through something very similar and I've essentially given up on being helped by doctors

I'm sorry to hear that, and it is absolutely ridiculous that doctors are so hesitant to just believe their patients. You deserve to have quality of life, and even if a doctor can't figure out how to help you, they shouldn't be so dismissive just because they're having a hard time figuring out how to treat you.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What a terrible time, hope you get back on track soon. We're not able to get any antivirals in Australia unless we're hospitalised or have very serious underlying issues. I'm curious if there are any treatments anywhere in the world for LC yet?

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was apparently being used as a treatment for long COVID here, but it was mainly based on the assumption that LC was due to leftover spike protein that hadn't been cleared from the body, but a clinical trial found it didn't relieve symptoms.

I've heard people say that naloxone is used by some doctors to treat LC, but I have no idea how it's supposed to treat the symptoms, and apparently (from my own attempts to get help) it seems there are currently no doctors in the entire New Orleans metro area willing to treat LC.

However, the entire state is currently being run like a raging dumpster fire that keeps trying to burn down the rest of the country, and a lot of doctors seemed to mysteriously be suspended, relocate to a new practice in a different state, or suddenly retire early 2025, so who knows if any of those doctors might have been willing to treat it or at least acknowledge it's a thing that exists.

When I ask doctors about it, I usually just get a response like "there's not really a protocol to treat LC." Which I'm kind of at the point of assuming just means, "I paid at least $300k to get a piece of paper that says I'm a doctor, and now I get to treat the symptoms not the patient. If I can't compare your symptoms to a check list somebody else made for me, you're probably just making it up."

The group that published this paper is currently running a clinical trial using an existing drug that targets one of the inflammatory pathways noted in the paper.

Because the IL-6 and JAK-STAT pathways were among the top upregulated pathways in participants with LC in both the 2020–2021 and the 2023–2024 cohorts, we have initiated a clinical trial to evaluate the therapeutic efficacy of the JAK1 inhibitor abrocitinib for LC (NCT06597396).

Abrocitinib

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Wonder how many people are buying these drugs online and self treating

It's such bullshit when suffering from conditions doctors don't recognise