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We may never be able to tell if AI becomes conscious, argues philosopher (www.cam.ac.uk)

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[–] qualia@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not if one were to consider other people parts of themselves.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, that's easy to disprove because I can tell you plenty of things you don't know about me.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting you know everything about your body? Before school were you aware of genetics for example? If humans knew all the details of their bodies disease would cease to be an issue.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Please explain how my comment implied that in any way.

EDIT: So if I'm understanding you right, you're saying that you believe (even if only for the sake of argument) that other people are a "part of you" in such a way that you can't know things about them that they already know about themselves.

If so, I don't think that really changes the ethical problem. So what if you believe that you'd only be harming "yourself"? You still can't prove this, and so acting on that belief to do harm to others without guilt would be unjustified.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Assuming you're somehow not intentionally strawmanning my position: I surprisingly wasn't arguing for harming anything. I was arguing that solipsism isn't inherently bad.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

There is a continuity counterargument to be made at that point: the closer people are to you, the more they know...until you know the most (not all) and people closest to you know things you dont know about yourself.