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Valve is stopping production of LCD Steam Deck models, once sold out they will be gone forever
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Disagree on the oled thing. Oled is better in a lot of cases, specially if everything on the screen is constantly changing. However, for a computer that will be displaying the taskbar 70% of the time its not ok. Oled burn in is a thing
This is a steam deck, a game console, not a normal computer. If your taskbar is visible 70% of the time I question what you're doing with the device.
Auto hide the taskbar, burn your wallpaper instead. Oled burn is really is much less of an issue these days thanks to better panels and pixel shifting tech.
I have a folder of backgrounds they switch every hour just for this reason.
But I hardly ever see them with full screen apps anyway and app/spaces switching with gestures is like second nature. Like having a laptop with 4-5 monitors.
Is pixel shifting a thing on Linux? The Steam UI too?
Pixel shifting is done entirely on the monitors firmware nowadays, no OS intervention necessary.
Oh niiice. I wonder why Samsung still does AOD shifting on their Android roms then?
Phones usually don't do pixel shifting since they lack the extra pixels on the edge to shift the content around.
Oh, that's a lot of really cool info to know. Thanks!
I used an OLED tv as my computer monitor for over 2 years. Never had any burn in.
To quote Rtings:
Even if your task bar is on 70% of the time, you're not going to see any significant burn-in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1gr-YypY4&t=208
Right? Even just turning off the screen every day is good enough for the life of the screen.
Every Android phone I've owned with an OLED screen (including modern ones) have had burn-in (or rather, burn-out) problems, specifically with the status bar.
If I had a choice, I would still be using LCDs on phones.
Also on TVs with modern backlighting technology, LCDs are remarkably close to OLEDs in terms of picture quality.
Phone AMOLED screens are entirely different beasts compared to QD-OLED/WOLED on TVs and monitors.
Phone OLEDs are much more dense, run much hotter and brighter, most also lack pixel shifting and many even pixel refreshing.
I also had some severe burn-in on phones.
Really? That's interesting, because I've never noticed burn-in on any of my OLED phones, even though I did use them for many years each. But then again, I've always wondered why seemingly nobody talks about burn-in on phones, while there is a lot of fuzz being made around it on computer monitors.
During normal use I wouldn't notice until I started reading webtoons and manga on my phone which shows a lot of white color that you don't typically see. And that's when I'd see the burn in my screen had picked up.
As for why there is more fuss about monitors than phones is because people use monitors for many more years than phones. And can use them for many more hours with lot of static elements with sometimes one program being used day in and day out. Its same reason why there is less talk of burn in for TVs versus monitors where TVs are more likely to have constantly changing visuals than monitor use case.
I actually just checked this on my Pixel 7 the other day. I have no noticeable burn in, not even in the status bar, except for the pill at the bottom of the screen. I've had the phone for almost three years.
What kind of time frame were they testing over? Not seeing any significant burn in means something completely different if they're testing for one year versus ten, especially for people who don't like replacing things that aren't totally unusable yet.
A lot of people have done burn in tests on the OLED, and it's barely a concern. The tech has really improved.
Since you said 'the oled' i assume you mean the steam deck oled. Im not denying its bad, on contrary. Steam deck is a device that is constantly changing whats displayed. Thats good to prevent burn in on any device. The guy said oled is always better, which is what i disagreed with. Ive seen enough phones and computers monitors that were oled that had the windows taskbar, or android status bar, burned in over the years cause its a static thing. Like any display, burn in is possible but dont underestimate oled on burn in
Even then, the concerns are way way way waaaaaay overblown.
Hardware unboxed have been purposely trying to burn in an OLED for thousands of hours, and it's still barely perceptible even when you're trying to look for it by taking a picture of the screen then applying filters to make it more visible. In real world usage its effectively impossible.
With any modern OLED display, burn in is something you don't need to worry about.
I've been hearing how burn in isn't an issue for years, but every phone I've had has had burn in. So I make sure to avoid apps that has a persistent UI if they are ones I'd use frequently.
I wouldn't notice in normal use cases then be surprised when I read manga or webtoons on the display.
I've not had a single phone that's suffered burn in.
Regardless, I'd trust someone who reviews displays for a living over my own anecdote.
The one group I can think of that actually tests burn in is rtings and they do that for TVs and monitors.
Phone reviewers just cycle through multiple phones so are the least reliable not using one phone as often or as long as regular people. Especially even more now that how long people retain phones has gone up with price increases.
Which actually has me wondering. How long do you typically use phones. Some upgrade every year. Some every 2. I've upgraded maybe on average 3 years or longer. So long it was the reason I shifted to custom roms in the past as security updates stopped. And getting nav burn taught me to try things like auto hide it.
I still have a oneplus 6 I use as a back up which is a phone that came out 7 years ago. Not sure how many years I've had it, but that's got burn in couple years ago. Do you use phones that long?
Ehhh, it's still a thing. I had burn in on my S9, and I babied that thing explicitly to prevent burn in. And that was after 4-5 years. My desktop monitors are nearly a decade old starting next year (wow, 1440p still has amazing staying power).
I'd definitely worry about burn-in if you have Teams open for nine hours a day and the taskbar on. It's crazy to me that phones still burn in from casual use. :/
I didn't say it's not a thing, I said it's not something you really have to worry about with modern displays.
And yet, the testing seems to show that's not an issue.
I have a Phillips evnia ultrawide that has accumulated over 6000 hours SOT over the last year and a half, over 3k of that was playing RuneScape 3. You have to turn the brightness down to 10% and be on a flat grey screen to even see the beginning of burn in. It's really a non issue, even in "torture" scenarios like getting 200m mining xp on the screen full time.