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Debian Gets Its Own PPA-Like System as Debusine Repositories Launch (linuxiac.com)

submitted 2 days ago by cm0002@no.lastname.nz to c/linux@programming.dev

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Debian developers now have an official way to publish and test add-on package repositories, as the Debusine project has opened its repository feature in public beta.

The new service, available at debusine.debian.net, allows Debian Developers and Debian Maintainers to create APT-compatible repositories that function similarly to the well-known Ubuntu’s PPAs but are built specifically for the Debian ecosystem.

Debusine itself is a relatively new project within Debian’s infrastructure. It was introduced publicly at DebConf and has been developed to modernize and unify Debian’s internal workflows for package building, testing, and quality assurance. Until now, much of this work has taken place behind the scenes. With the launch of repositories in beta, Debusine is becoming directly usable for day-to-day development tasks.

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[–] who@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (10 children)

You already posted copypasta about this, two days ago, and it's still false.

Only Debian developers and Debian maintainers can create a Debusine repository. That’s not “PPA-like” in any practical way. The value of Personal Package Archives (PPAs) is that anyone can create them.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really? From this page, all it looks like you need is a salsa.debian.org account. They call this being a "Debian developer", but registration on Debian Salsa is open to anybody, and you can just sign up.

Once you have an account, you can use Debian's Debusine normally. I don't really see how this is any different from being required to create an Ubuntu/Launchpad account for a PPA. This is really just pedantic terminology, Debian considers anybody who contributes to their distro in any way to be a "Debian Developer", whereas Ubuntu doesn't.

If you don't want to create an account, you can self host debusine — except it looks like you can't self host the server that powers PPA's. I consider this to be a win for Debusine.

[–] who@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to the Debian Wiki, merely having a salsa account is not sufficient.

When you login on debusine.debian.net with Salsa for the first time, if you are a Debian developer or a Debian maintainer, then a Debusine account is automatically created. The username of that account is your primary email on salsa.debian.org.

To verify if you are a Debian developer, it relies on the group membership exported by Salsa: if you are part of the debian group on salsa, then the account is created and it is added to the Debian group on debusine.debian.net.

To verify if you are a Debian maintainer, it will query nm.debian.org to know if that salsa identity is known to be a Debian Maintainer. If yes, then the account is created and it is added to the Maintainers group.

Edit, to address the last line in your comment:

The value of Ubuntu's PPA service is it gives anyone a managed and hosted repository and a multi-architecture build farm, for free, so you don't have to self-host. Self-hosting Debusine would not be comparable.

If a self-hosted Debian repository is all you want, that has been possible forever, using any of a variety of tools.

[–] jasory@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Debían developer is a specific position that you apply for. Anyone can be a maintainer. Well, I had to get approved but I don't know the qualifications, I already had code in Debían vía GNOME.

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