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[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To download is still to save to one's disk.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not if you're saving to the cloud...

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's called an upload, literally the opposite

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A download is an upload viewed from the other end.

If you're not on either end - saving cloud to cloud... It makes less sense.

Saving can be either upload or download... Saving is saving.

By your argument, saving to a nas is uploading too just because the storage isn't local.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Then it points up.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You upload to save to the cloud

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

From where to where and how is that uploading from your perspective? What if you save from cloud to a local nas or a remote nas.

Saving is saving. Download and upload are relative.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have multiple scenarios. Save...

  • from memory to disk
  • from cloud to disk
  • from memory to cloud
  • from cloud (their memory) to cloud (their disk); kind of unusual these days but it's a scenario that's not always automatic.

You think these all apply to the concept of "download"?

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said none of that. I don't know why you'd assume any of the above from an obviously simplified laymans' explanation of the concept of a download. I'm well aware of this, but my target audience may not be. Write for your audience, not for you.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But why are you focusing on the download aspect? The subject at hand is an icon for saving, and saving can happen as in those several scenarios, if not more.

So, do you think a download icon like that fits them all? Especially those that don't involve your local disk at all?

Let's stick to the subject, above injecting tangential technical correction asides. 👍

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

*Because *I replied to a comment that says "that's a download button".

I made no other comment, and what I said is correct.

I'm blocking you to stop you from wasting any more of my time because you can't read.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

lol, but when they said "that's a download button", they meant that it doesn't make sense as a save button, for those reasons I mentioned.

You can't read.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

Downloading is specifically not saving in this metaphor. That's essentially making a record copy, not overwriting the source.