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Supreme Court to hear case that could vastly expand presidential powers (m.kuow.org)

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Proving that history does repeat itself, in 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt attempted to fire an FTC commissioner over ideological disagreements. In that case, called Humphrey's Executor, the court unanimously held that while the president has the power to remove purely executive officers for any reason, that unlimited power does not extend to agencies like the FTC, whose duties "are neither political nor executive, but predominantly quasi-judicial and quasi-legislative."

Following that 1935 decision, Congress went on to create many more multimember, independent agencies whose members likewise can only be removed for cause. Since January, Trump has also removed Democratic members from some of those agencies, including the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the Merit Systems Protection Board and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's worth posting here, I think it's hard with Mastodon to Lemmy?

Everything Hitler did was legal.

Sometimes after the fact, but always codified to be so.

Republicans have control of the Presidency, House, Senate, Supreme Court, most governorships, all or part of most state legislatures, and a significant number of federal judgeships.

Believing that in two or four years we will be able to change that electorally is to not understand what it is the Republican Party, its allies, and supporters are intending, and their plans to achieve their goals, legally.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

That people still think we can vote our way out of this is insane.

The ignorance is astounding.

The American people were repeatedly warned. They chose to ignore those warnings. Now we're going to have to go through a period of a significant decline in quality of life and probably violence to get back to where we were.

We were not fucking around when we said the Republican party was dangerous and had fascist tendencies. That was not an exaggeration.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't have a lock on changing the law and certainly they have been stopped here and there but they try again or go do something else as bad. Its not over for political change but we have an increasingly shrinking window. Hitler took power way faster with most opposition gone in half a year and no shred of it publicly in not much over a year. We have been able to keep that fast pace from going so its a bit more a slow erosion with trump (slow in terms of not being able to eliminate opposition). Fact is though he pushes for making anything against him treason which if he was actually able to do would bring us to like half a year in in germany.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What we have going for us is that our leader is much, much older than hitler. He's fading every now and then physically, but mentally is really bad. The news isn't really reporting in the headlines the batshit stuff he's saying. It's way worse than the headlines imply.

This is his official Thanksgiving tweet:

A very Happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our Great American Citizens and Patriots who have been so nice in allowing our Country to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged, and laughed at, along with certain other foolish countries throughout the World, for being “Politically Correct,” and just plain STUPID, when it comes to Immigration. The official United States Foreign population stands at 53 million people (Census), most of which are on welfare, from failed nations, or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, or drug cartels. They and their children are supported through massive payments from Patriotic American Citizens who, because of their beautiful hearts, do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape, or form. They put up with what has happened to our Country, but it’s eating them alive to do so! A migrant earning $30,000 with a green card will get roughly $50,000 in yearly benefits for their family. The real migrant population is much higher. This refugee burden is the leading cause of social dysfunction in America, something that did not exist after World War II (Failed schools, high crime, urban decay, overcrowded hospitals, housing shortages, and large deficits, etc.). As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great State of Minnesota. Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for “prey” as our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses hoping against hope that they will be left alone. The seriously retarded Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, does nothing, either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst “Congressman/woman” in our Country, Ilhan Omar, always wrapped in her swaddling hijab, and who probably came into the U.S.A. illegally in that you are not allowed to marry your brother, does nothing but hatefully complain about our Country, its Constitution, and how “badly” she is treated, when her place of origin is a decadent, backward, and crime ridden nation, which is essentially not even a country for lack of Government, Military, Police, schools, etc…

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that could be a detriment though. There was some indication they did not want to kill hitler so much because he was an idiot and his replacement could be worse war wise. Similarly trump is a kinda useful idiot and there are certainly puppeteers who will through another in his place. The real thing comes down to if the people fight this shit 100% which requires right and maga types waking up to some degree and ultra left fighting it even if its a compromise for now.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that could be a detriment though. There was some indication they did not want to kill hitler so much because he was an idiot and his replacement could be worse war wise.

The person replacing him would have to be as popular as he is. Who would that be? Johnson, Vance or Miller? There's no one legally or illegally that could replace him.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean its kinda nuts that he is that popular given his actions. As long as they rally under one instead of fight for the position the project will likely keep going.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I disagree. The r's lost a position that had been republican since the civil war this last election. There's a reason so many r's are freaking out.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

well yeah as long as people keep up the fight. thier biggest thing now is to get people to give up. We need a massive house cleaning and shoring up of the ability to enforce the law on the enforcers. We really need some congressional and court run departments to make sure the executive is following the law.