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[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If this is the Democratic candidate, and there is no adequate progressive 3rd party candidate, 2028 will be the first election I sit out since 2000.

I am DONE accepting milquetoast corporate right wing democrats just because they aren’t literally insane. John Kerry was my first, and Kamala Harris is my last. I swear to fucking god.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It fucking blows my mind that with all Trump is doing, you people STILL refuse to learn what happens when good is positioned to be the enemy of perfect.

Heads up bud-

There will NEVER be a candidate you will like. Because ALL of them know how the game is played. YOU don’t. And as a result of this, from your perspective, they will all fail you in one way or another… guaranteed.

So go ahead and pout and stay at home all because a perfect candidate isn’t running. The rest of us will be voting against fascism while you’re enjoy those cartoons on Election Day.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I feel you. I also feel the person responding to. In this case, if we’re going to reflect on the past, I’d like to see a considerable share of the blame placed on the millions (what 84 million?) that actually voted FOR Prince Don. If we’re looking to the future, I’d suggest that any person seeking voter support be meaningful and have good faith effort solutions.
Awful hard to convince people to care if their ending is the same either way.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The ending is NOT the same either way. And suggesting it would be is in very bad faith.

The shit we’re dealing with would not have happened under Kamala’s presidency.

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I guess you missed the part where I said I’ve done exactly what you are suggesting for nearly 30 years now. I mean, what’s the definition of insanity, again?

I’m not looking for a perfect, ideal candidate. I’m looking for a candidate that doesn’t continue to help the right shift the Overton window further in their direction. Especially in the case of corporate power and campaign finance. That’s it. Bill Clinton was why my first vote was cast was for Ralph Nader. George Bush, and everyone blaming him on people like me, was why I “fell in line” with the Democrats. I’m done playing their games until they’re done playing the Game you are referring to. Democrats have become complacent, feckless, and lazy. They need to learn how to earn a vote like mine again. Zohran understood this. Sorry, I’m voting for whomever I feel like from now on.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh I didn’t miss anything. And my oh my that’s certainly a lovely paragraph of hot-button topics you got there! Straight out of the Far-Leftists Playbook that outraged so many into not voting against fascism.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Left is not the reason Kamala lost, the facts DO NOT SUPPORT this narrative. You are spreading misinformation because it is part of a story that riles you up and "feels" right to you, it is irresponsible.

Back up your accusations or stop pushing this narrative.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Reposting for mod:

As usual, no proof from them.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

My proof? Ninety one million people didn’t vote in 2024, Lemmy was full of kids yelling at people to not vote. There was also roughly 3-4 million people rust toyed for 3rd party spoilers.

It’s safe to say that had the spoiled brats not convinced people to would have voted for Kamila to not vote, and had voted against Trump like they said they hated so much, she’d have had potential to win.

Not to mention that a wave of people influencing others to vote against fascism would have been a huge help instead of “wAaAaAaAaA! bOtH SiDeS!”

Now I’m sure you have your little article that trump would have won regardless all queued up- but take note that I’m not talking about the bullshit they used to excuse away the assholes that chose not to stand in the way of a fascist.

I’m talking about the momentum that would have made the difference in those that would have voted for the left but DIDN’T. Not the dickeads that would have voted for Trump.

If you didn’t vote for Kamala, you chose fascism. And I’m not going to debate this any longer.