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[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

As someone living outside the US, your whole comment and the surrounding ones are absolutely wild.

Here in Germany, work without a contract is absolutely unthinkable. If anyone offered me a job without a contract, I would have to immediately report them to the authorities on the suspicion of tax fraud.

Also, even without a single word about it in my contract, they would have needed to notify me way in advance if they wanted to let me go. The exact duration varies by how long you've been there but the minimum is four weeks. For me it would have been four months because I had been there for over ten years. Also, the requirement for an employee to quit can never be stricter than for them to be fired. If you're interested in the details, I recommend you find a translation of § 622 BGB.

And yes, these rules do get enforced reliably. The mere mention of the word "lawyer" usually gets even the most stubborn boss to comply in these cases because they know that every judge would rule against them within minutes.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I live in Germany now and it’s great. I’m technically working without a renewed contract (which in my contract, means that it auto renews with a COLA increase) due to their oversight, but my raises stack on top of that.

The worker’s rights situation in the US is dismal unless you’re both lucky and in a skilled position, in which case it seems like it’s workable, but only as long as your luck holds. It’s still dismal.