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US tells NATO if Zelenskyy does not sign peace deal Ukraine will face worse in future
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Oh, it's not about abandoning knowledge or being nomads or anything like that. Not that it's wrong if people want that sort of thing. But more about flat granular, answerable government. You can and still should fund and encourage research and science under a system like that.
It's about not having a large government or business telling you that you are to be sacrificed. Tough luck as they dump the negative externalities onto you. More star trek less 1million BC.
But human nature and society has a lot of evolution to do before then. So until then, it's important to keep concentrated power to a minimum. That's the one thing most abusive governments share. Unanswerable people at the top, sending down commands according to their whims or ideology. Regardless or especially because of who it hurts. See trump and immigrants or Xi an uhygers/Tibetan's/hongkongers or democracy advocates in general.
It's like that saying, I don't know if it was Carl Sagan or who it was who said it, and I paraphrase- our technological development vastly outpaces our cultural development.
These old power structures cannot hold 8 billion people in a modern society run on digital communication, they were never designed for it. We need a new system, a whole new model, and then some way to spread that model organically, grass roots like. I have been thinking about it a lot.
Thanks for sharing- if I may ask you, what kind of society do you envision? What form and shape would it take? Do you have a realistic idea of what you would want to see?
For me, specifically it would be a society that is just more tolerant and cooperative. Enabling people to chase their curiosity and passion. Finding ways to harness it for the benefit of society. What ever form it takes. It will be slightly different for everyone.
Yeah cooperation is kind of important for humans, I agree that there's not enough of it and that we are governed by a financial system that actively promotes competition and strife instead.
I think what you say, you are listing in a sense ideals. "More cooperation, more tolerance, encourage curiosity and passion", basically "cut people some slack", and I agree with that. I started out going to say, if you ask any person of any political conviction what kind of society they would want, they would all say something along the same lines- peace and understanding.
But then I thought about it for a moment and decided that in fact, people would answer very differently. Not in the goals but in the definitions and paths- "I would like to see more cooperation between multinational businesses and trade agreements allowing them to merge, I would like to see more tolerance for my personal bigoted beliefs, I would like people to be curious and passionate about the Nation's path to racial supremacy".
I believe that people like you and I, let's say idealists, see the goals of cooperation and equality as ends in themselves. I believe that other people, the salt of the Earth kind, you know, morons, only see goals as instrumental for the agency of expressing their own personal dispositions.
I don't know if that makes sense. I'm kind of drunk.