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Does anyone have a good in depth guide on how to de-google? My ultimate goal is to not use Google at all and use Graphene OS on my Pixel
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR_ghQEN2SgB5ZpiIIzlJvtXhXHfEf1M7
TheHatedOne on YT has some good resources
You can also find degoogle lists with alternatives for each app, e.g. here: https://git.tycrek.com/archive/degoogle
My advice to you is to take one step at a time, explore at your own pace. It's easy to get overwhelmed, but IMO each step is beneficial on its own. E.g. instead of moving to Proton.me in one night (or any other email provider), first start by forwarding the emails and see if you're ok with the product
There's no guide since everyone's use case is different, and 100% is only obtainable if you avoid all tech. GrapheneOS or buy an iPhone are the best options. I went the grapheneos route, but I still use google play services as I found its the safest way to still get apps for now, and the disconnect from google is still much more than using stock android. I moved email to proton, maps I use OsmAnd.
Oh nice. Can you still install banking/credit card apps with Graphene? I've heard it can be a pain in the ass to get around
Unfortunately it comes down to luck, you can check this crowd-sourced list to see if your banking app works. Users report whether or not they had (sandboxed) play services installed and what settings they toggled.
You won't be able to use GPay/Wallet at all due to lack of SafetyNet.
I don't use any banking apps, but from what I've seen on forums it can be hit or miss depending on the bank. I only use their webpages. If my bank required an app, I'd find a different bank.
Might be simplest to get the smallest phone you can find for those kind of apps, and then do everything else on grapheneos. Might be hassle carrying two devices but at least one of the phones can be the cheapest thing you can find.
I think it depends on the bank
Sucks that they focus solely on google produced phones though.
Right? I hate how there's like no options for phone OS
They're working with another OEM to get a phone out with their security requirements
That's what the consumers collectively wanted. Whether they knew it, or not.
That isnt how it works. We may have preferred others if they had been better, we were not given that option. I would prefer if windows phones existed as an alternative but they had very limited third party support.
Consumers couldnt take a phone where all their apps would not work.
Growing an ecosystem takes time. I've been using open source software since 1980s. Now I can use open source on tablets and phones. All my apps work because they're open source.
The ecosystem would be now even better if more people would have put their choices that way. They didn't. That was a choice, whether they realized it or not.
Yes and no. I support foss and am trying slowly to move myself. I would love a linux phone but supports are not in place to have a similar experience. Banking apps and app availability and feature parity are barriers. Consumers would move to something new if it filled their needs, see blackberry to iphone.
I hate microsoft so I dont care that they lost but they didnt give it enough time to build for sure, but you had huge apps like snapchat saying they wouldn't build for their phone. This is limiting exposure.
The fact is moving out of tbe established duopoly is more akin to choosing not to have a device then it is choosing a competitor, it may aswell be a palm pilot you move to in some instances.
I mean... Just don't use Google services!?
What kind of guide or in depth are you looking for? It's a broad field. Google covers a lot.