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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (24 children)

Edit: What the fuck is wrong with me? I was thinking of Telegram. 😭

About a year ago, Telegram put out a release which proudly stated that they were used by people fighting for their freedom or something similar. In the same release, they mentioned that they always comply with legal governmental subpoenas. This is what I was remembering, and I got it mixed up with Signal. My mistake.

~~I've gotten into an argument about this before, and people down voted me to hell, but I'll happily say it again: SIGNAL IS NOT SECURE. They require identifiable information on sign-up, log it permanently, and they will and do happily provide it upon police request. Even if they don't provide direct access to your conversations, should a corrupt government get ahold of them, they are only one or two steps from putting your name on them.~~

~~Edit: Predicable response. Love how no one has commented on the actual point of my response yet. You know, the part where they collect, permanently log and willingly disseminate personal phone numbers? Something that can often be used to de-anonymize chat logs? The part that's actually a big fucking deal.~~

~~Edit 2: Removing the cynical speculation (literally three words) because you people can't seem to focus on anything else. This is about them provably logging and providing personal phone numbers, which can then be associated with both chats and identities.~~

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

because you’re lying or you have no understanding of what you’re talking about

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