this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2025
17 points (94.7% liked)
PC Gaming
12758 readers
1332 users here now
For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki
Rules:
- Be Respectful.
- No Spam or Porn.
- No Advertising.
- No Memes.
- No Tech Support.
- No questions about buying/building computers.
- No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
- No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
- No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
- Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Don't just consider the brand. You have to consider the line/model.
Lenovo's consumer lines (Ideapad, Legion, and others) are all absolute garbage, and you shouldn't consider them for even a second. But their enterprise line (Thinkpad) is generally very, very good. The main problem is that they're expensive.
Asus is strictly consumer-grade. They do not have an enterprise line. Their build quality is among the best you can find in consumer-grade, but enterprise-grade is always higher quality than consumer-grade.
I would never leave an OEM load on it, so privacy isn't much of a concern for me. I suspect they're both pretty bad in this regard.
I've been running an ideapad for 12 years and it's still going strong. But I wouldn't be surprized if the newer models are worse.
Thinkpad was good years ago. Now it’s crap imho.
Why is Legion garbage? Youtube says a lot nice things about it. I'm eyeing legion 7 pro, is there an alternative at ASUS?
Much like the consumer lines from other brands, it's a lot of cost-cutting. Plastic everything, hinges that break prematurely, limited power filtering, that sort of thing.
One that frequently pops up (although I'm not familiar with that particular model) is poor cooling. Heat kills many gaming laptops, either directly or indirectly. That can mean needing more fans/bigger vents, being unable to clean them, or liquid metal thermal paste that leaks and shorts out.
I have an older Legion, 10th gen i7, 2060, 144hz display, and it's a perfectly solid machine.
Never given me any issues except its Linux support is kind of so-so.
I would say though that there are other devices out there that are much lighter. This laptop is a chonky boy.
thanks!
Get a refurbished thinkpad, should still last a lot longer than a brand new consumer line one.
Is a ThinkPad good for gaming? I’m actually considering a high-end ThinkPad.
Thinkpads are enterprise machines, so they aren't really designed for gaming. But there's a lot of overlap with things like graphics rendering, so they do have some options.
The T series is the standard corporate line (usually T14) for the average office worker. These sometimes have a dGPU available. You'd probably want something in the P line, but those are much more expensive.
thanks!
Nah, its still a laptop, for gaming you need a desktop 😅
(j/k) idk i just generally don't bother trying to play games on laptops since I have a fast desktop for that 😅
thanks!