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Matvei Bronstein: Theorical physicist. Pioneer of quantum gravity. Arrested, accused of fictional "terroristic" activity and shot in 1938

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General Alexander Egorov: Marshal of the Soviet Union. Commander of the Red Army Southern Front. Member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Arrested, accused on false charges, executed.

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Today, Russian schools no longer teach what Joseph Stalin did. Many young russians actually believe that Stalin was a great patriot.

This is part of an effort by Vladimir Putin to rehabilitate him:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/10/vladimir-putin-russia-rehabilitating-stalin-soviet-past

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/21/stalin-is-making-a-comeback-in-russia-heres-why-a89155

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (21 children)

communism is an economic system whereas democracy is a social one

Communism is a political and economic ideology whose goal is the creation of a communist society, the pseudoscientifically postulated utopia of a stateless, classless, moneyless, post-scarcity society. Communist ideology is like the Christianity of politics & economics that keeps promising the 2nd coming of Christ: they insist it'll happen someday inevitably. No possible way Marx was wrong.

Colloquially, communism refers to a communist state (also known as a Marxist–Leninist state): a political system/government consisting of a socialist state following Marxist–Leninist political philosophy with a dictatorial ruling class that promises to achieve a communist society.

Democracy is a political system/government in which political power is vested in the people or the population of a state. Colloquially, democracy refers to liberal democracy, also called Western-style democracy, or substantive democracy: democracy following ideas of liberal political philosophy.

So, colloquially, communism refers to a political & economic system whereas democracy refers to a political system.

As a political system, the communist state is totalitarian, the most extreme authoritarianism:

Totalitarianism is a label used by various political scientists to characterize the most tyrannical strain of authoritarian systems; in which the ruling elite, often subservient to a dictator, exert near-total control of the social, political, economic, cultural and religious aspects of society in the territories under its governance.

Whereas an authoritarian regime is primarily concerned with political power rather than changing the world & human nature (they will grant society a certain degree of liberty as long as that power is uncontested), totalitarianism aims for more. A totalitarian government is more concerned with changing the world & human nature to fulfill an ideology: it seeks to completely control the thoughts & actions of its citizens through such tactics as

  • Political repression: according to their ideology, rights aren't inherent or fundamental, the state is the source of human rights. Rights (eg, freedom of speech, assembly, & movement) are suppressed. Dissent is punished. Unauthorized political activities aren't tolerated.
  • State terrorism: secret police, purges, mass executions & surveillance, persecution of dissidents, labor camps.
  • Control of information: full control over mass communication media & the education system to promote the ideology.
  • Economic control.

All of this is entirely compatible with Marxism-Leninism.

Liberalism, however, is fundamentally incompatible with authoritarianism. It holds that governments exist for the people & authority is legitimate only when it protects inalienable/fundamental/inherent rights & liberties of individuals. The people have an inherent right to obtain a government with legitimate authority, and when their government lacks or loses legitimacy, the people have a right & duty replace or change that government until it obtains legitimacy.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Liberalism, however, is fundamentally incompatible with authoritarianism.

an argument easily disproven by pointing to the US for the last few decades.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Nope, a government can't disprove a moral & political philosophy. As we can plainly observe, liberalism/libertarianism & authoritarianism are on opposite sides of the ideological map.
political map with axes left–right & libertarian–authoritarian
Liberalism is a philosophy whereas liberal democracy is a type of government as was clearly stated:

Colloquially, democracy refers to liberal democracy, also called Western-style democracy, or substantive democracy: democracy following ideas of liberal political philosophy.

If anything, all you're observing is a government depart from a philosophy to become a different type of government. Even so, your claim is off: the US has been protecting inherent human rights & liberties for the most part in recent history until Trump.

Even so, there are other liberal democracies across the globe.

[–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

As we can plainly observe, liberalism/libertarianism & authoritarianism are on opposite sides of the ideological map.

The political compass is incredibly basic and does a horrible job at describing ideologies. Ideology is not just a basic "left wing/right wing, libertarian/authoritarian" %'s, it's more accurately representable with parameters. It's as useful as a toy.

If anything, all you’re observing is a government depart from a philosophy to become a different type of government

Besides liberalism's glaring issues, the whole point is that this is the inevitable endpoint of capitalism and by extension, liberalism. If an ideology always ends up in a horrible result as we see in the US and other liberal nations, it's fair to include that in the criticism of Liberalism.

your claim is off: the US has been protecting inherent human rights & liberties for the most part in recent history until Trump.

Jesus fucking christ what? The Indian genocides/reservations? Chattel slavery, and modern slavery through penal labor? The war on terror? The countless coups done by the US that installed fascist dictators? Japanese internment camps? The monroe doctrine? Operation paperclip? Palestine? Literally all of this happened before Trump came into power. What the fuck are you talking about. How is that defending "human rights & liberties" in any way?

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

hey, when obama drone bombed all those arab kids he was really checks notes protecting human rights. same with Biden aggressively clamping down on pro-Palestinian peaceful protests by students. I feel like my human rights are defended so hard.

[–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They hate you for your freedoms !! Totally not because of all those bombs

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 14 hours ago

when you think about it, Biden killing people in Gaza was just his best effort to solve world hunger through humane depopulation.

/sarcasm, since I'm not sure some liberals wouldn't take me seriously and think it was a good idea.

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