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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

'Probably'

America worked so hard for that.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Americans deserve it like Russians deserve it. That being, yes, but also no. Many of the Russian people are, in fact, only guilty of innocent ignorance. As a northerner in the US, I try to remain optimistic and think that the vast majority of people, including the South here in the US, are the same; people can only act on what they know, and if you're fed ignorance and fear your entire lives, to you, you might be doing the ethical thing.

I truly do believe that basically everybody is trying to do the right thing. It just comes down to who is backed into a corner, who has been tricked into the kill-or-be-killed mindset, and scarcity (or even only artificial/perceived scarcity) of resources.

The problem is when there are people in high places corrupting every system they touch, and those who believe they're exceptions. Even racists are just deeply ignorant people, probably believing they're doing the right thing for the human species and community. And then, obviously, the compounding biases blinding them to reality. And this doesn't make them inferior, they're human, just like the rest of us, and prisoners to their circumstances.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

just ignorant

No. Lots¹ of Americans are vicious hateful fucking orcs³. It's not just about wanting to win; its about being willing to lose if you can make the other hurt worse. The ones who are upset with trump say 'He's hurting the wrong people!' not 'He was supposed to help us!'.

You've never seen these orcs interact with someone they knew was queer or a poc. That which they do not understand must be violently dominated or destroyed. Creating enough of a model to understand the other is a kind of attack/desecration on/of their very souls, and my existence is ontologically evil precisely because they could attempt to understand me and be made however fractionally impure.³

They can't be talked with² negotiated with compromised with or cooperated with by their own choice. They are philosophically exterminationist, even if they haven't read any philosophy, and many have narrowed themselves to vessels of that.

¹i don't know about most, but I live here too

²meaningfully. You can exchange words but what you say to your house plants is more meaningful.

³not that the people you're talking about don't exist. The homophobic redneck who thinks eating pussy is just something you do for your best friend when you get bored, and of course she loves her friends, and no she hasnt had a boyfriend in a while, because 'men aren't worth the trouble, why change the subject so sudden like that?'⁴, or the guy who thinks ’black people have super strength in like an x-men kinda way so they probably get paid extra for warehouse jobs; that seems pretty handy! Unless they have to hide it for secret identities or something. That must be hard!’⁴ it's just that other kind exist too.

⁴i have met this person.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 hours ago

There is no need to qualify that statement about Americans. I can vouch for it as an American.