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Valve engineer says Steam Machine performance beats 70% of PCs, and can play all games
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People often aren't aware that the average PC gamer doesn't have a 5090. The majority of people are using pretty outdated hardware. And Steam are certainly in a position to know that because of the Steam survey.
I'm one of them, my Cpu and motherboard are both almost 10 years old. I updated most other parts but don't want to mess around with those core parts in fear of damaging something.
At the moment I'm either considering finally making the jump to a new case, motherboard and Cpu with the parts I replaced over the years or I will buy a steam machine.
Same. I'm beating a 1080 within an inch of its life at this point. Some times, the system needs a hard reboot and BIOS just "forgets" that bootable devices are installed. It's time, and that Steam Machine is looking really nice.
Back when you could get a great card for not insane money, and they never break.
Change your motherboard battery.
Hum, isn't that the motherboard battery running out?
Now that you mention it, possibly. Thanks for the tip.
Cpu could be dangerous if you are not careful but video card is easy. Open case, 1-3 screws depending on old and new card, pull out, push in new card.
That said I am running a 970 so...
980 Ti. And dual Xeon 5355s.
Yeah, that's why I replaced the video card already. From what I've seen, the CPU is also doable if you're careful but definitely a lot more fragile.
Nvidia is not helping, either. What they're charging now is bonkers.
...Intel is trying at least. Battlemage is good, it's just inexplicably not selling well. I'd have jumped on it a heartbeat if they made a bigger card.
I think Intel's issue is that they're focusing on the low end. Anyone with a 3060 or better would see the b580 as a lateral move at best, or more likely a downgrade. A b770 card would probably have gotten me to upgrade as long as they weren't stingy with the ram.
They focus on the low end, but a lot of people who only want low end GPUs care about Minecraft, and their OpenGL performance is abysmal, so Minecraft runs like molasses. If you play a lot of Minecraft, Nvidia's cards manage to be much better value. There's no reason why this couldn't be fixed if they're willing to invest in writing native OpenGL drivers instead of going through a compatibility player or mitigated if they invested more in making the compatibility layer faster, but that would mean deciding they're losing a lot of sales this way, as it wouldn't be cheap.
...Yeah.
Ironically, they seemed to figure 'low end' is where the sales are at. Yet my guess is most 'low end' buyers pick Nvidia by default, and folks who are upgrading from anything aim higher than a B580.
I would've killed for a 512-bit Arc card (other than the unobtanium datacenter GPUs), but that's a fever dream for now...
Still on a 1060. If I want to play something vaguely impressive looking, I'll use my PS5.