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The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Okay. I agree this is likely abd a problem. But like, is valve's hardware locked down? How are they different from dell?

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Valve, unlike Dell, has the power to vertically integrate an ecosystem. They own an app store with de facto monopoly over PC gaming. If Valve says that starting 2030 you can only run Steam on Windows and their own locked down OS (and enforce that via bootloader or some other measure) what can you do about it? You only licensed games from them, never bought them.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why can't they take back shit you 'bought' rather than just licensed?

Ownership is just a licensing agreement under capitalism.

I agree the problems are real, but they are not specific to valve.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m dying on this hill because people act like Valve is different. If I had to guess it’s PC players that want to feel superior to others, even though they were first to lose access to physical copies of games and second hand market it provided.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The thing is: they're not different.

And their hardware isn't, like; special; it's a single board computer running the standard x86/64 architecture that ships with a lightly customized OS most users won't change.

I'm more worried about what nvidia Intel and and are getting up to. They'll fuck you first.

I guess valve kind of is special? They are a games company, so they don't have big government contracts, they don't work with palantir, and they dont work at a low enough level that they can easily install something my electrical engineer or hacker friends can't possibly fix with a soldering iron.

Theyll fuck me, sure, yes, but the chip makers already have their pants down.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What are Nvidia and Intel doing?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Intel management engine, then whatever its successor is called. Same concept. I think there was some other more specific collaboration with the regime.

Nvidia straight up contracted with palantir.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Valve starts utilising Intel ME to do what I’m warning everyone about is it on Valve or Intel?

Nvidia (and everyone else) sells their GPUs/NPUs to the highest bidders they can legally sell them to. Not sure how that’s relevant to this discussion.