this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2025
142 points (99.3% liked)

Fediverse vs Disinformation

1782 readers
1 users here now

Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.

Community rules

Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

Related websites

Matrix chat links

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
FundMECFS@lemmy.dbzer0.com
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
unruffled@anarchist.nexus
142
Emails Reveal Epstein’s Ties to Mossad—But Corporate Media Looked Away (fair.org)
submitted 1 week ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the Epstein/Mossad ties were often labeled by US corporate media as “unfounded” (New York Times, 8/24/25), dismissed as a “conspiracy theory” (New York Times, 7/16/25), or said to have been “largely manufactured by paranoiacs and attention seekers and credulous believers” (New York Times, 9/9/25).

Just the NYT being the NYT. It's as credible on the topic of its favorite fascist apartheid state as the New York ComPost or even the Daily Mail is on anything.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its... literally the oldest CIA trick in the book.

Have the New York Times call anyone close to your actual operations a paranoid conspiracy theorist, use CIA talking points memos to guide your criticism and belittling of them.

cough they first did this for the JFK assasination cough!

... if you doubt that ...

https://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-memo-1967-cia-coined-weaponized-label-conspiracy-theory/5822801

Here you go, read these yourself, these are the memos where they say that's their plan.

'CS' at the bottom stands for Clandestine Services.

PSYCH ... well what do you think that means, rhat these are therapy notes?

Been available since 1996, but it is still a 'conspiracy theory' to point out that the CIA ran a psych war campaign, internally, in the US, via their assets in the media, to discredit anyone not towing the uh, company line on 'the whole Bay of Pigs thing', as Nixon put it.

Noam Chomsky (extremely ironically in this particular context) kinda pointed out that the US mainstream media (back when that term meant something)... was just full of CIA handlers, like, decades ago now?

This is... ironic, because Chomsky himself is in the Epstein files, in case anyone was unaware.

more 'tinfoil hattery' for either the similarly deranged or curious

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/16/did-the-cia-invent-the-term-conspiracy-theory/

I love this Snopes article, its a critical reading skill test.

It was only in the 1980s that the term "conspiracy theory" began to really have the negative connotations we associate with it today. So the conspiracy theory about the term's origins was likely a reaction to this growing negativity.

Oh ok, it was the 80s when the term took on a negative, insult connotation.

Ok, lets keep reading, several paragraphs later...

It was only during the late 1950s and early 1960s that conspiracy theories started to become a stigmatised way of explaining big events.

... Wait what.

You just said it was stigmatized in the 80s.

Now it was stigmatized in the 50s/60s.

???

The Kennedy assassination was the first major instance in which conspiracy theorists accused the state of secretly plotting evil and provided alternative accounts that were then labelled conspiracy theories, as in the 1967 CIA document.

I.. yes... but... what? Thats... that's the point!

So it is hardly surprising that conspiracy theorists – who blame events on the intentional actions of evil people – retrospectively see the emergence of the term as a deliberate attempt to uphold the official version of the Kennedy assassination.

The CIA calls the ideas of such people 'conspiracy theories', verbatim, in that document!

Are we really quibbling over not having a perfectly syntactically accurate CIA propoganda fucking style guide and tactics manual?

Has the author not heard of how 'MKULTRA' was like, a whole family of related programs... and ... the head of the CIA ordered all those documents destroyed... and the only documents about that that we do have, exist because somebody missed a filing cabinet in 1973, and that one just happened to be found years later, via the Church Committee?