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I didn't know why you're being so heavily downvoted. I'm not sure I agree with you, but it's a valid line of reasoning.
Justifying the shutdown that Democrats started with their filibuster by saying "hey at least we got some talking points out of it" is why I downvoted it. That is beyond immoral. People were literally running out of food because of this shutdown.
If Dems didn't have the balls to go all the way them they should have voted for the CR. They made people suffer for nothing.
Because that great line of thinking just killed 50k Americans per year some users here included.
So fucking thankful
If you truly believe Republicans were going to cave and vote for extending the ACA funds, then I see where your coming from.
I think it was clear that was NEVER going to happen. And if you look at government shutdowns in the past, this kind of thing never works out.
So keeping the government closed at this point only served to hurt people that were dependent on it being open.
Republicans don’t give a shit about people and they aren’t worried about losing votes, so they would gladly keep it shut and let people suffer and also watch the ACA funds expire at the same time.
People on these communities do not want to hear alternative opinions. Any amount of pushing back against the community opinion is matched with this kind of treatment.
I honestly think this is the biggest reason why democrats lose so much. We can’t get progressive policies passed because we shit all over democrats that aren’t 100% on board with the far left making it so much harder for the left to control any office of government.
This is coming from a progressive person btw. I would rather we have 51 democratic senators where some of them are Manchin or Fetterman than have 40 Bernie Sanders’s in the senate and never have a majority.
Excuse me but it was these same people who launched this shutdown in the first place by filibustering the CR. People went hungry just so Dems could get talking points out of it. They did this for NOTHING and now you want us to be kinder to people defending them?
I don't think you understand how many people were hurt by this, and how absolutely livid they are. Spare me your sanctimonious whining about ideological purity. This isn't a policy debate. They hurt people, and they did it on purpose.
This kind of shit is how people become radicalized.