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When playing war games, sacrifices are necessary. Nobody plays chess with the intention to save every piece. The other commenter is correct. If you have people stand up now, before a civil war is fully underway, you have no easy access to the weaponry, skill, etc, that is needed to take on the government. And honestly, it's exactly what this adminstration wants.
The administration wants to stomp out any resistance. So, if soldiers start bucking, they'll be kicked to the curb. Then, when the real shit hits the fan, we have nobody on our side in the military. You are coming at this with the idyllic perspective of soldiers standing up now and kicking off an internal war within the military. But that's not how they work. The other commenter already mentioned how the UCMJ won't give soldiers the time of day for this shit.
It's easy to stand on top of your soapbox and broadcast your optimism and feel good that your protests are gonna actually make a change. They're not. We're totally fucked now. Do you not get it? We're in the middle game. We have to start seeing what pieces we have to prepare for a worst case scenario in which, we are fighting the US government. That requires sacrifice. It requires calculation. It requires a persistent bad taste in your mouth, because folks like you want to live in an Elysium.
You have no idea how bad it can get, living under an authoritarian rule. This is nothing, right now, in the grand scheme of things. War is hell, as they say. And we're about to see it. For my perspective; I've entered the "don't give a fuck" stage. I have a family to protect and that is my one and only priority. As it is with many others. That's the other point of view, you're missing out on. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be, and I wish it were. I wish we could value every human life and treat everyone with dignity and respect. Love and compassion. But we don't. The mouth of hell is opening, and I'm looking at getting as far away as possible. Because, as in line with my beliefs, I refuse to take a human life. And that is quickly becoming what is required. And I will not abide by that.
My reply here is just to educate you on the intricacies of war and the violitle situation the United States finds itself in. I'm not trying to be difficult, rude, or aggressive. If I come off that way, it was not my intention. I hope you have a great day, and I hope that the country doesn't fracture, but I fear it already is.
Something something, yeah son well I'm a secret navy seal and I'll tell you that the marines are actually a culture that deeply values honor something something laughed at me while eating his snickers.
Still, gotta love how in your rant (I REALLY hope that is a copypasta and not something you thought up yourself...) you managed to combine "you are too soft and don't understand what war is" with "the soldiers might get in twouble if they say anything".
Which.... about sums up America when you think about it.
You want the most uncomfortable truth of it all? What are you doing to stop this? What's your role, mate? Or, do you want somebody else to have blood on their hands? That's the crux of your argument. You want the NG to disregard these orders? Congratulations, you just helped fast track the military being filled with onlya sychophants. You want to NG to fight back against the government? That's delightful. Will you be taking up arms, or just watching? If you're gonna fight, why haven't you already? Your rhetoric is empty, complacent, and devoid of any real action. Which...about sums up Americans when you think about it.
I never said you were too soft. You are not tactful, or strategic in your thinking. Which means, you don't actually want to fight. You just want to feel good hyperbolizing in online debates.
M8 civilians don't take oaths to protect the constitution. So asking one to do your job for you is in poor taste.
I get where you're coming from. But collectively he is right. Individually you're right. But eventually those two are gunna collide. We all know it. Because we all feel it. It is what it is. Until the battle lines are truly drawn we can't naught but look or risk being sold a lie and acting on it.
Collective action is the smart play.
Firstly, I am not US Military. I come from a very diverse background of people, some of which are US Military, which is only where my knowledge of certain military aspects come from. My response was delegated in such a way to demonstrate that the commenter I was replying to, had no forethought for what they were asking. If you're in a situation where the US Military needs to turn on itself, civilians, by proxy, are involved in the war effort. That's how rebellions work. They are, almost, never fought solely within the faction of government in which it's taking place; not peacefully, that is. If that was not clear, then the fault is entirely my own.
Secondly, saying that, [collectively he's right, but individually I'm right,] is by nature a paradox. If you'd like to point out which aspects of their argument you feel are correct, as well for mine, then you are welcome to do so.
Lastly, the whole entirety of my point is that, it behooves one strategic effort to keep as many allies within the current system, for as long as possible, to maintain access to weapons, skills, and intel, that would be needed for such a desperate war.
P.S. I've said this before, but the sad fact is, until middle class, white, white collar Americans start losing their rights en masse, there will be no civil war. We're heading that way, but not there. The administration and SCOTUS, are being quite clever to not bother that base in such a way. So Americans, by and large, will continue this trajectory of getting up, going to work, and putting food on the table. Most Americans don't care enough about the poor, the immigrants, the unhoused, the minorities, to take drastic enough action to initiate change on a large scale. I do think you are very apt in your words, "Until battle are truly drawn...". We truly do not have enough information to act on. I appreciate your comment wholly and I enjoy being able to discuss things thoughtfully and respectfully. If you feel I have not done so, let me know as well.
That's the crux there are different levels of realities happening here. Schumer just betrayed us. If you violently attack rn then it will be seen as a terrorist attack serving absolutely no purpose. This you will destroy your individualism to protect the collective. But at no gain, infact it could be a negative.
But at the same time Schumer just betrayed us and something must be done. But like you mentioned the power is the white moderate who is asleep.