Fox News caption: BY WINNING, DEMOCRATS ARE ACTUALLY LOSING
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
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This is exactly what the idealist types who chirp on about third parties and revolutions should actually want to see.
A slow invasion and replacement of old gaurd DNC members with new life.
Very unfortunately, its very difficult to deliver on the type of instant change people want to see on the federal level given the need for 3 brnaches of government and a super majority in the senate, but at bare minimum I hope this makes people who just don't pay attention to politics realize that it turns out there isn't actually a reason things can't be better, and it turns out you can actually just tax rich people a little bit more to see a huuuuuge benefit to your everyday life.
Speaking personally, I am happy to see this change. As a longtime supporter of alternative voting systems, I am glad to see the 'new guard' agree and take steps toward it. I even trust them to do it honorably [generally]. I love that the new guard is more economic and future focused. Its great that we see some break from the neoliberal norm.
Of course instant gratification would be nice. But I'm not complaining. And -personally- I haven't seen others complain it's too slow and booooo im a misanthrope.
I think it's better to phrase these opinions as questions, not accusations. Like: "3rd party revolutionary types: what do you think of these? Do you like them?". I guarantee you can't put us all in a box.
I'm not sure it would help, because they fundamentally still have a very harmful idea that encourages voter apathy and hurts people.
I just think we should hold conversations with respect and not strawmen.
Now this seems in bad faith and like projections wrapped into one.
What strawmen have i used exactly? Are you denying that people talk about starting third parties or revolutions? Those are extremely common talking points amongst the fringe of the online left.
As for respect, surely you mean civility, because respect should be based on the merit of ideas, not a given.
Those ideas have no merit whatsoever, so they certainly don't deserve respect, and I don't think anything I've said thus far has been uncivil, so I am still left thinking like at the start of this comment that your reply here is in bad faith.
I took your comment to read "idealist types should like this ... but they don't". That's what I replied towards, But on closer reading you didn't actually say that. Just an implication I assumed.
sorry