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[–] mPony@lemmy.world 124 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I think an unofficial sport of The Internet is to coin new slang and convince others that everyone else is using it.

Removing the "up" from "washed up" doesn't seem all that clever, though.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Apparently it's a thing. Like saying "it's giving (cha)rizz(matic) (vibes)" aka "it's transmiting a lot of charisma" or " it's charismatic", you gotta infer from the context what the full sentence means.

I don't think "washed" by itself is being used a lot, but economising sentences by removing parts and them being inferred via context IS something that is done a lot by young people. We used to just use initials, they are cutting words instead, lmfao.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait... rizz is short for charisma?? 🤯

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, new slang is apparently mostly shorthands of actual words. Aura also is like charisma too, charisma so strong that you can see it around the person, so, aura.

They make sense.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 22 points 2 weeks ago

Slang has always been shorthand for longer words or phrases, but I didn't realize rizz fit that category.

Even things like "speak of the devil" were once longer phrases. It's a natural pattern in language that common sayings are shortened over time. Really fascinating just how common it is.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, "aura" is ~165 years old, so not sure if that counts as new slang.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the way it is used, it is.

Saying stuff like "aura farming" or "that man has aura"

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That meaning is 166 years old. The word itself is around 500 years old.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/aura

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You are absolutely correct, but it equally correct that you have never said "Why are you aura farming?" to your grandma and that is what is new to the english language

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, "aura farming" might be a new saying, but the meaning of "aura" is not.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are absolutely correct, but no one said the word's meaning changed— just used in new ways that mean the same but have implications based on context ;)

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are absolutely correct

...Found the LLM?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, but I just want to reinforce that no one is arguing against you here, even though your wording is as if you are at disagreement with others in this thread. No one is arguing against anything you say, we are just adding onto it.

You stating how long the words exist etc are appreciated as neat facts to the discussion, but they dont really challenge anyones assertions. Very cool to to be reminded of though! Using existing words that have been around for centuries and extending the meaning, not rewriting it, is how language evolves positively :)

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like you replied to the wrong person. Just pointing out that that specific phrase that ChatGPT absolutely loves using?

Never seen a real person use it.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I aint changing my habits because of some silly robot

but yup youre right lol. l blame the adhd

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well yeah, and has been extensively used in games to express persistent area effects centered in an individual, but I'm talking about the recent use in describing someone charismatic. I'd be surprised if you found a text from 160 years ago with a semblance of "to have aura", classically it's a "strong aura", "imposing aura", "calming aura", you need to know what the aura is about to understand. In current slang "charismatic aura" = aura.

I guess that it's similar to the trend of saying that something is aesthetic or aesthetical when they mean that something is aesthetically pleasing.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I haven't personally found it, but that number comes from here: https://www.etymonline.com/word/aura

Curious what you mean by recent use? It's been in my vocabulary with that meaning for at least my entire adult life (~20 years). Maybe it's just become a popular word with younger generations in the last few years?

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's gained popularity with it's bastardization. The concept of "aura points" for example I'm certain is new lol. Thanks for the source btw.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was extremely disappointed that it wasn't a Rizzo the Rat reference.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

"Who's that?"

-kids

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda like British Rhyme slang, where you have to understand what the words are rhyming with to understand what they're talking about.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean look at antiquated English and how cumbersome it is. I feel like it's the nature of language to become more compact and efficient.

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't expect clever from Twitch chat.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Rizz isn't from Twitch chat, it's AAVE co-opted and then overused incorrectly to the point of making it uncool by suburban teens (like most slang).

See also: gyatt

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was talking about 'washed' though.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Washed" is from sports, though. "X athlete is washed" has existed long before being used in Twitch chat/gaming/esports spaces.

Basically what I was trying to (poorly) convey is you give Twitch chat too much credit, they come up with nothing original in the first place lol

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it AAVE? Wikipedia credits its popularity to a twitch streamer from 2021.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, KaiCenat, the most popular African American youtuber. Where do you think he learned it from?

Wikipedia even has a picture of him bro 😭

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t know where Kai Cenat heard it from. Im not going to immediately attribute it to any group without evidence to support it. For all I know it’s UK slang and not AAVE.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, let me clarify then: I'm black. It comes from American black culture.

Anyone who watches a Kai Cenat stream would immediately clock it just by his and his friend's speech patterns. This is why reading a Wikipedia line isn't really enough to understand the breadth of culture. See: everyone in this thread who is making fun of Gen Z/ Gen Aloha/"young people" slang while simultaneously not understanding it actually developed a lot from black and gay culture of Millennials and Gen X globally, and has become mainstream due to these communities becoming more prominent in the media landscape.

Sorry to write a mini-sociological essay, but I don't care for the "it's not that deep" aspect of Lemmy when it comes to non-STEM popular culture stuff. It's pretty deep (and interesting) actually.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do you have a source for it being AAVE? Your identity isn’t a source for this even if it happens to be true.

I can’t find anything that claims an origin for it beyond Cenat using it starting a few years back.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It makes the meaning more unclear. "Washed up" refers to washing up on the shore, i.e., being removed from the ocean. "Washed" means...you're clean?

EDIT: I'm wrong, see below

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Etymonline says that ‘washed-up’ is from theatre slang.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I stand corrected! Just saying "washed" is much closer to the original origin than I thought, then.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, slang typically originates from expressions that are in everyday use among significant subcultural population. 'Washed up' could've been related to the sea if it were coined in the mid-nineteenth century at the latest, when seaside occupations were still dominant in the economy, especially in the UK. But it's too far-fetched for the twentieth century, when urban life became more important.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Obviously you're not dregged to the flit-flow.

hey, fr tho, I wonder if making up micro-slang is a useful technique for countering the AIs somehow?

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I was out of town, doing a bit of visiting. I heard my friend KkOma had finally taken the time to settle down in the countryside. Rightfully so, after what he’d been through, with all the pent-up stress and frustration built up over the years of coaching the most successful KR team in League.

“How have things been buddy?” I asked, as I saw my man step out of the house upon hearing my car come in the drive-through. “All good, life’s been a lot more chill, now that I’ve retired,” he answered. “Hey, wanna check out my animals out back? I’ve taken up farming as a hobby with my free time,” as he motioned over to the back gate.

We headed out and he started introducing me to some of the livestock, mentioning how he had named them after his players, as the unhinged animals they were. Just then, I was hit by an unbearable stench. With my eyes watering uncontrollably, I questioned through gritted teeth, “What in the hell is that smell?”

He looked over knowingly and said: "Ah. Faker? The goat is never washed.”

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ehh a lot of it is just natural progression and evolution of the English language, others is regional dialects or small tow ways of saying things reaching mainstream through music.