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If you're saying "Kamala Harris y'all" in 2025 and this response surprises you, then you need to seriously get your shit sorted out. She made it plain who she was last year. It's why she didn't get elected.
Cool. Hows everything going.
Not really dude lol
I mean yes it's accurate that if she had been Bernie Sanders or said popular things she would probably have won. But also, the exclusive and passionate focus on how much the left was officially ordered to hate her for a variety of reasons, and not pay any attention to what an objective catastrophe Trump would be in such a huge variety of ways, is pretty fuckin' significant.
If your child decides to go high dive into an empty swimming pool instead of go to the museum, then sure, maybe the museum's not age appropriate or it features some colonialism. That could have made a difference. Yes. But, also, there are clearly more fundamental things that are wrong.
Who ordered that? How was that order communicated?
If the left is that easy to order around, why didn't the Democrats just order them to vote for her?
“Harris supports genocide so you shouldn’t vote” was like shooting fish in a barrel. That it folded perfectly into russia’s goals for the election is pure coincidence.
Democrats suck at messaging. See Democratic consultants for more information.
Did Russia ask Kamala to support genocide?
Just waving every failure in US politics as a Russian master-stroke plot is really getting old. You have the largest surveillance tech in the whole wide world, show proof or GTFO with your conspiracies.
Obligatory Fuck Russia and Putin.
Slava Ukraini!
So here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
If you had to pick one most damning issue that was the place where she made it plain who she was last year, that lost her support, what would it be? What do you think the biggest one was, if you had to pick one?
How is that a perfect example? Are you going to answer my questions?
Happy to. You first though. If you had to pick the biggest most damning issue where she made it plain who she was, what would it be?
Speaking as someone who's not American, I lost hope for her campaign when she made a show of getting endorsements from some pretty reprehensible Republicans (including but not limited to Dick Cheney).
The other commenter asked first.
They sure did. Like I said, I'd be happy to answer their question, I just want to see the answer to my question first.
So you still haven’t answered the question…
Doesn't really look like you were happy to when you refused to do it.
I really would be happy to. I need them to answer my question first, though, in order to make the point that I want to make. Instead they evaporated, which means I don't owe them continuation of the conversation with the blank void they've left in their absence.
If you’re happy to answer, then simply answer. You don’t need the conversation to proceed entirely on your terms - you want it to. You could easily respond to their questions first and then pose your own to make your point. Your point may even carry more weight if they refuse to answer after you’ve just done so.
Their choice not to address your question immediately after you declined to answer theirs isn’t unreasonable. Answering their question wouldn’t have prevented you from making your point; if it did, then perhaps it wasn’t a particularly strong point to begin with.
I'm not the one who dipped from it as soon as I got something that wasn't entirely on my terms.
I'm done talking about this lol
I would have refused to continue engaging when you did that too. That wasn't a win.
I'd say her attitude towards the Palestinian protesters at her rally in Detroit was the last straw for me. It was a misstep that may have been due to pressures of running a rushed campaign and the stress of detractors at every stop, but to carry on and at no point express common goals with the protesters showed her hand well enough for me.
More “blame progressives” BS.
If corpo dems spent a fraction of the energy they waste attacking progressives on fighting republicans instead we wouldn’t be in this situation.
She has always been pretty shit. That much is indisputable.
Voting for her was still the correct thing to do (and what I did), because the degree of Trump's fascism and corruption is much greater and more dangerous.
But it's incredibly naive to think this behavior of hers is in any way new. It's exactly who she's always been.
Yes the bar was fucking low and the dems still failed (generously assuming they wanted to win).