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[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Insomuch as most heroic narratives follow a similar template, absolutely.

More context about the Hero's Journey narrative:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Once one understands the hero's journey it becomes obvious why most of the steps exist. If they just go out and do everything successfully the first time with no hesitation they come across as boring. If they don't have the upside and downs then there isn't any opportunity for growth.

The ending often have a return and celebration instead of steps 11 and 12 which I think are story specific.

[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Yeah, it's definitely not a one-size-fits-all approach, but more like "If this story has these aspects, this is generally the order in which they occur." Some of the terminology developed from the original concept is also flexible or substitutible.

Edit: Applying the example above to Zelda (Ocarina of Time), just based on the question towards the top:

  1. Ordinary World: Kokiri Forest

  2. Call to Adventure: Navi arriving, The Deku Tree

  3. Refusal of the Call: Saria's disappointment at Link leaving (interpreted this case merely as the temptation to stay)

  4. Meeting the Mentor: The Owl who teaches you not to mash A too quickly

  5. Crossing the Threshold: Stepping out into Hyrule Field

  6. Tests, Allies, Enemies: The majority of the game, from the end of Kokiri Forest up to collecting all the Medallions.

  7. Approach: Going to Ganon's Castle

  8. Ordeal, Death & Rebirth: Fighting Ganondorf and Ganon, awakening to the power of the Triforce of Courage. Also Link fully recovering his memories and being "reborn" in a metaphorical sense.

  9. Reward, Seizing the Sword: Ganondorf's defeat, rescuing Zelda (the Master Sword is not itself the reward in this case, despite the specific mention of a Sword in this stage, though could maybe interpret as grabbing the Master Sword again during the Resurrection stage)

  10. The Road Back: Escaping from the collapsing castle

  11. Resurrection: Ganondorf returns as Ganon and must be confronted one final time.

  12. Return with Elixir: Reclaiming the Triforce, sealing the darkness, returning to childhood and meeting Zelda again.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

That fucking owl. Though it was worse by far in Majoras mask, since he kept. coming. back. And was wordy as fuck every time.

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