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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 23 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

It's really an article about Finnish sisu - which, having lived in Finland, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the rest of the world should cultivate some of. It's not very long or very much in-depth, but well worth a read.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Being a Finn I can say 99% of any talk related to sisu is absolute garbage or telling legends about the Winter War.

Modern day Finns are pathetic fucks and not some psychologically durable machines who don't feel emotions.

People only care about themselves and their own. Fuck everything else.

Finland doesn't even believe in personal rights, nor mental illness, for that matter.

Genuinely one of the worst countries by a certain metric. Rulewhoring. Worrying amounts of authoritarianism.

Edit oh and I see you downvoting me, fellow Finns. But like I've said, you're cowards and none of you will actually engage me in this because you know I'm right and the fact that I am right is what is really getting to you, making you downvote without the ability to comment. In essence it's the very problem I'm complaining about. Selkärangattomat suomalaiset.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

Today's generation of Finns may not have the resilience of their forebears - born out of the war and pre-Nokia poverty no doubt - but they do have something that's 1000% Finnish: they tend to accept their situation and silently power through it instead of trying to improve it. For me, that's what sisu really is.

That has advantages if the situation can't be improved: if a job is tedious and boring and there's nothing you can do about it, a Finn will grind through it when other nationalities would most likely bitch and moan. In those situations, the Finns will get amazing things done. But the flip side is, when the situation can be improved, the Finns don't even try to figure out if it can because their first reflex is to suck it up.

As for mental illness, it's true: the Finns do have quite a few issues. But to me, it's both the consequence of this ultra-fatalist approach to everything, and also the fact that most Finns don't know what they have because they don't know what other people don't have, because they don't travel much.

My usual advice to Finnish friends and colleagues who told me life sucked here was: go live in a few poor African or South American countries - hell, even the US now, to experience true fascism first hand - for 6 months to a year and come back: then you'll be glad to be alive and living here every morning.

[–] nomoreyankturds@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

There is an element of that, yes. But there's also a "Make the best of what you have" aspect to it. It's not as defeatist as you make it sound.

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