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Quote from him:

I assume good faith of everyone who has worked on this Gaza “genocide” article. At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested.

A neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: “Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.”

Respect for Jimmy Wales 📉📉

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it really contested per commonly accepted definitions of genocide? I thought it was just a controversial truth to state in public media.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it seems the same as saying the 2020 US presidential election results are contested... which is technically true, but it'd be misleading to frame it that way.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is contested. Not here on most lemmy sites or even Reddit. One typically gets banned for even mentioning a subtle deviation from the hive mind, so it's understandable that you wouldn't know.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

It is not at all contested per common definitions of genocide, which was the question.

Lawyers call it genocide. Historians call it genocide. International bodies that specialise in discussing genocide all call it genocide.

https://theconversation.com/is-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-we-asked-5-legal-and-genocide-experts-how-to-interpret-the-violence-262688

The only people who disagree are the Israeli government and their supporters. So, Jimmy Wales' position is partisan bullshit.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not really unless you count Israeli trolls and proxy-pressure as contesting it.