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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hossenfelder has put some out on her youtube channel. Its basically since everything can be determined from previous states and mehanisms we don't have free will. I think I would need to go through it again. Personally I find free will and not free will to be sorta pointless. If everything we do is based on processes but those same processes dictate our personality and how we react to our environment. Well that just as well is just the framework of our will. Yeah you could call it not free because we like what we like and don't like what we don't like but life itsself is an opportunity to test the levels of those choices. We overindulge and don't like something as much for some time or get completely turned off and we grow to like something we used to hate. Its the process of life itself this recieving of sensory input and action output that acts and interacts with the world and other life that also acts and interacts. We define ourselves with our actions which influence how we make decisions in the future and the world molds us to do it as well. Its all the same.

[–] arendjr@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

This is effectively Spinoza’s argument indeed, which relies on nature / the universe to be fully deterministic. As I mentioned in the post, I don’t agree with determinism though. Science doesn’t either, because as we know from quantum mechanics, reality is probabilistic rather than deterministic. So saying that everything can be determined from previous states is an assumption that is not supported by science.