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A bit over a month ago, a user posted in !main@sh.itjust.works to propose defederating from maga.place. That post was followed by a discussion in !agora@sh.itjust.works a week ago, which seems to have gained some traction. In response, we're going to hold a vote on the matter. Voting will be open for one week, through Friday, November 7.

The Agora discussion post is here:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/48420886

Only sh.itjust.works accounts created prior to today (October 31) may cast a vote.

Vote by commenting either yes/aye/oui or nay/no/non.

Any further discussion should happen in the Agora post linked above.

Additional Context/Discussions

Similar discussion at lemmy.ca: https://sh.itjust.works/post/46502305

Other fediverse instances are also defederating: https://sh.itjust.works/post/48111431

The instance's page at Fediseer: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/maga.place

VOTE RESULT

yes/aye/oui: 363
nay/no/non: 43

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[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes

But: this is going against my belief to not create self-reinforcing echo chambers. I truly believe it's better to meet them and challenge their (rather stupid) opinions, but MAGA has just gone too far for me to even bother trying.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I truly believe it’s better to meet them and challenge their (rather stupid) opinions

I spent months on another social media platform doing just that and I learned quite a bit about Maga and none of it was good. They literally had nothing to back up their opinions besides posts and videos by other right wing assholes. Their "research" was entirely within their own echo chamber and outside information, no matter how authoritative, wasn't considered at all. Information they couldn't easily disregard or ignore like quotes directly from congressional reports didn't change their minds either, although it did shut them up.

In addition, 80% of Trump supporters on that site were functionally illiterate. They couldn't spell, capitalize, or use punctuation, nor could they write a complete, coherent sentence. They likely had just as much trouble reading.

I did learn that they really didn't like it when someone was able to easily disprove some of their bullshit in a sentence or two and I was threatened more than once by Maga assholes on that site.

There is no challenging Maga Nazis, Trump said it, they believe it, and that settles it.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

What happens when he's gone in 3 years, though...

These people don't vanish with their opinions. They'll fester and grow, waiting for some other dipshit to "guide" them in the future.

It scares me what sort of buttholes we share this world with sometimes. Why does everybody need to have opinions on what everybody else is doing?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can't debate with people who don't believe in free speech.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This comment adds absolutely nothing to the discourse.
You are welcome to argue against my opinion; I am always open to being wrong and learning something new.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fascists don't believe in free speech. MAGA is fascist.

There you go.

Edit: Also, upvotes and downvotes on Lemmy quite literally are votes for or against a comments contribution to the discussion. Looks like you're wrong, on multiple fronts.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, people quite lierally downvote what they disagree with, and that’s fine. You could comment that the earth is round in a flat earth forum and be downvoted. Doesn’t make you wrong. Not that hard to grasp….

We both know that comment was a worthless waste of bandwith. You don’t need to admit it.

Let’s talk more when you’re ready to have a meaningfull exchange. Enjoy your weekend!

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm, you're getting very pressed after being challenged for defending fascists. You got something you want to admit to the class?

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeeeey, finally you got to say what you wanted to all the time! Fascist!!!

Mate, I know your type. You're sad and lonely IRL, so you throw hate around you online to feel something resembling self worth. You repulse people IRL so the safety of echo chambers online makes you feel like like you belong.
You are part of the reason why Trump won, you just don't understand it.

I don't judge you, I pity you.
I also know you are as bad to deal with as the MAGA crowd, so I'm going to block you and move on with my life. Hope you can find some peace and love in your life.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

None of what you've said in this comment is true, and in true conservative fashion — every accusation is a confession.