I've been meaning to distance myself from Spotify for a while now but I've got a lot on my plate and their service has been very convenient. I've been paying for no ads since 2014 so I haven't heard the ads personally but have seen multiple sources online describe them and confirm they they haven't stopped as of today. I cancelled immediately. Not sure how many Spotify users there are on Lemmy but I just thought y'all ought to know what they're up to. Spotify let's you write a message saying why you're cancelling and I was very descriptive. Hopefully they'll back down just like Disney with Jimmy Kimmel.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you are willing to curate your own collection and have a little techical knowhow:

You can set up a Navidrome server and enjoy high quality music streaming with no subscription costs

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I fairly recently set up a NAS with Jellyfin, replacing google photos and Spotify have been on my to-do list for quite some time but they've been pretty far down on the list. Replacing Spotify just got bumped up. I'll check out Navidrome.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

replacing google photos

Immich makes replacing Google Photos pretty easy. The UI is very similar and the desktop and mobile apps are pretty solid. Multi-user support is excellent if your friends or family also wanted to try it out.

I wish Navidrome (and more self-hosting apps in general) didn't assume you were the only user on the service...

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep I've done a little testing with immich, that's what I'm planning on using, just haven't gotten around to fully setting things up yet. My NAS is just running on a Raspberry Pi 5 so I'm not planning on any multi-user stuff at this point.

[–] BingBong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Since you already have jellyfin, try it with music using the beta finamp client. Works like a charm and will save you having to spin up another service.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Immich for photo server ;)

[–] leopardpuncher@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I managed to get a pretty decent collection going, accessed through Navidrome and have to admit I wasn't a fan. Artwork missing, multiple profiles for the same artists, the inability to remove albums that were no longer on the server. The whole thing just felt like a struggle.

Then the disk my collection was on kicked the bucket, and hadn't gotten around to setting up backup, so I'm starting over from scratch 😅

Bit miffed Navi is still what people are recommending 😔

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sucks that this has been your experience and admitted it does take a bit of work to set it up nicely.

The documentation of how artwork is detected and ways to fetch it automatically from online sources you can find here

The multiple profiles thing happens Because Navidrome is very tag dependent to understand music. I have a few collections where the band slightly evolved their name/spelling where this happened.

The difference between “artist/albumartist” and the “compilation” tag need to be set correctly and uniformly for that to be fixed, which depending on the source can take some work.

My own strategy is to start with a small server And gradually expand it. Make sure the tags are ok, the art is correctly named in the right spot.

I still have a lot of music i haven’t processed

For the music that did get processed, things are stable and reliable as rock, require no maintenance and performs very well.

The removed albums thing Is a weird one though, using the full rescan off all files and data button I have never experienced this.

[–] leopardpuncher@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago

Finally managed to have a go at a new collection, and think I ended up with a setup that isn't all that bad 😊

Lidarr (Plugin Edition).
Tubifarry plugin (so much better than my last attempt, which was with Soularr).
Tubifarry uses SLSKD as indexer and client.
Set up an extra metadata profile in Lidarr with most release formats added, for those rare occasions where I need to find something obscure for a specific artist.
When needed, I manually tag and import files. I haven't had good experiences with Beets or Picard (neither desktop nor Docker version), so for re-tagging I just use Kid3 on my Mac, accessing the music files in situ on the server. Most things go pretty smoothly, though, and I just use Lidarr for renaming files (and moving, if necessary).
I've made sure that Lidarr has access to a Bin folder, though, for those occasional times when it decides to just randomly delete something 🙄
For Navidrome, I've figured out that the best way to fix missing album art is to just add it directly to the music files through Kid3.
For persistent missing files in Navidrome, I've realised there's a 'Missing files' function when you click the profile icon (top right), and this solves a lot of the gripes I had with Navi previously.
For playback, mainly on Android, I'm using Symphonium, which seems happy as long as Navi's happy.

All in all, I think I've got everything a bit under control this time around 😊

Now I just need to remember to get the backup situation under control ... 🫣

Again, thanks for your help! ❤️

[–] leopardpuncher@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for the suggestions! I'll give it another go, see if I can make it work 👍

I was using Symfonium as my client on Android, maybe that was part of the problem.

I used Beets for processing/tagging, which was also troublesome; never could get it to do anything on its own, had to manually initiate every session, and lots of stuff needed handholding to get tagged correctly. Never could get Picard to work at all, neither in Docker nor on my desktop.