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[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I mean, unironically Reagan would think modern Republicans are pieces of shit. Not that's he's good, but he's a different brand of asshole.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 4 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Would he though? I mean I am sure all Republicans think other Republicans are pieces of shit, because that is what pieces of shit do, but I am not seeing any kind of different moral compass or outlook on Reagans brand of Republicanism and modern day Republicanism. Oligarch libertarianism and rampant corruption hidden behind the ideological veneer of bigotry fits both perfectly.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There's nothing Libertarian about Trump or his oligarchs, they're Authoritarians through and through. Plutocrats aren't Libertarians. Also, Reagan was, for better or for worse, very much concerned with the US as a country, and its international standing and soft power. If you told Trump he could be ruler of the entirety of the rest of the world, provided the US was allowed to be turned to ash, he'd agree in a heartbeat.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Libertarian means big companies can do what they want, preferably if they pay me. So I am seeing a lot of Reagan libertarianism in Trump libertariansim.

Also, Reagan was, for better or for worse, very much concerned with the US as a country,

No, he wasn't. You are just a victim of his propaganda.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Libertarian means big companies can do what they want, preferably if they pay me.

No, that's not what it means at all. Even in a (rightfully) derogatory interpretation, it's never been about some kind of fealty system for corporations, it's about the delusion that a bureaucracy-based country can operate without central organization of services and infrastructure. "Small government", but by people who don't understand what that would actually result in.

Feudalism would be closest to what is happening currently, with corporations paying essentially scutage to Trump to avoid his ire.

Oligarchic or Plutocratic Feudalism or Vassalage would be apt, but not Oligarchic Libertarianism.

No, he wasn’t. You are just a victim of his propaganda.

No, he was a Nationalist, and Nationalists core belief is a conceptualization of a "Nation". Stephen Miller is a White Nationalist. He believes that America as a 'nation' consists only of white Christians. Trump is not a nationalist. He cares only about money and power. He doesn't care about America beyond what it gives him. He's a megalomaniac and a narcissist, not a nationalist.

If you're unable to conceptualize people being bad for different reasons and in different ways, I don't think you will be very successful at countering them.

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