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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Given how strong the link is between cured meats and cancer and how that is quite public knowledge now days, I interpret this as Hamburger Helper telling me to get cancer. "You don't actually want to live long enough to enjoy retirement, right?"

[–] rami@ani.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

What retirement?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Care to share a link to a study for those "strong links"?

Everything gives cancer eventually, my hitlist is not a steack but processed food.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Huh, I thought it was common knowledge given the news headlines about it a few years ago. The World Health Organization considers it a Group 1 carcinogen.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Been trying to convince my peers of this but im vegetarian so they tink im just being alarmist

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago

It's weird how quick they tend to accuse vegans and vegetarians of bias, when the former positions objectively have so much evidence and benefits in their favor, and require overcoming generations of traditions and overwhelming societal pressure.

One of those accusations are an admission things I guess.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

You're perceived as an alarmist not because youre vegan but because the risk is so low. Tell people to not drink or drive slower. To eat healthy. There are so many things.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Here is an extract, because I think you are not totally truthful, or at least not saying it all (I understand it as: don't eat smoked meat every day):

consumption of processed meat is “carcinogenic to humans (Group I ),” and that consumption of red meat is “probably carcinogenic to humans (Group 2A).” The report differentiates the two meats as follows:

Processed meat – meat that has been transformed through salting, curing, fermentation, smoking, or other processes to enhance flavor or improve preservation

Red meat – unprocessed mammalian muscle meat such as beef, veal, pork, lamb, mutton, horse and goat meat

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 weeks ago

And which part was untruthful?

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a very high confidence in the statistical significance, but a relatively low effect (in that the difference between eating cured meats every day and eating no cured meats ever has roughly a 1% chance of making a difference in cancer incidence).

Basically, about 4% of people who never eat cured meats get cancer in the GI tract (from throat to stomach to colorectal) at some point in their lifetimes, whereas people who eat cured meats every day get cancer in the GI tract about 5% of the time. On the one hand, that's like a 20% increase in cancer risk, but on the other hand, that makes a difference to only about 1% of the population.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, it's like everything, don't over do it?