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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ever heard of Barack Obama? 2009 winner. During his terms to 2017, ordered 1,878 drone strikes. Unknown number of innocent people killed. 2017 was 8 years ago.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unironically the best POTUS of the last half century, saved millions from death and suffering by expanding Medicaid and funding deradicalization programs.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God that's bleak. Our best, and he's still nearly indistinguishable from giving George W. Bush a third and fourth term.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

George W. Bush and his administration played musical chairs with the CIA leadership until they got one willing to fabricate evidence of WMDs in Iraq and then invade to the sole benefit of Exxon Mobil, the Obama admin was a million fucking times better than that.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, yeah, he only doubled down on detaining and torturing without trial, dragged the Afghanistan war/occupation on for another decade, and posthumously reclassified civilian drone-strike deaths as "combatants".

A million times a negative is still a negative.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You seem to have read what I typed and believe it and yet somehow still believe Obama didn't take us in a positive direction away from that barbarism. You're insane.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Correct, the deporter-in-chief legitimized that barbarism and expanded on it.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

Did he? Cus it kinda seems like he kept all the "barbaric" tools on the table, used quite a few of them himself, and now we're left with Trump handling all of them. You consider that a positive direction?