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XMPP (aka Jabber) is the community-owned standard for real-time federated messaging.
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There isn't one.
I recently spent a few weeks looking for exaclty that and I had no look.
I've looked into XMPP, Matrix and other FOSS self hosted options. There isn't anything out there offering the exact features as discord.
Disclaimer: I don't use discord and never will. But I do game frequently with a few close friends. I have bothered them so much asking them to try a few options.
Basically their requirements were:
My friends complained a lot about XMPP android apps, they mentioned the options available felt unfinished and looked ugly. I understand that's just an opinion but that is important for some people. Edit: spelling
The closest thing we've found is matrix, which is what we are using. But there really is only one client that works on the desktop/webapp, which is element. For android the only one available is schildichat next (spelling probably wrong). Matrix is also very tricky because not all server implementations support audio/video. The ability of seeing who's online before joining isn't available yet.
Matrix still lacks in many other things discord has to offer. I haven't been able to get stickers working, for instance. Not a dealbreaker for my friends but others may think differently.
I am not advocating for Matrix. It is very cumbersome because it depends on having the exact server and client that works. But it is what we are using.
I have a small discord alternative called zoriumapp ( https://zoriumapp.com/ ). Its build on tauri so its uses lot less resources than discord .
support for desktop (linux and windows) -> YES Voice Chat+ Video calling support .
We are at very early stages so any suggestions are highly appreciated.
First point of criticism, that general zod overlay makes your website effectively unusable on mobile. It appears to have no way to close it. What are you thinking?
cool, thanks