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Why the EU’s ‘Veggie Burger Ban’ Vote Should Alarm Everyone, Not Just Vegans
(veganhorizon.substack.com)
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2025
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Like this? When you are quickly grabbing lunch on your half an hour break?
https://www.marksandspencer.com/food/plant-kitchen-no-chicken-and-chorizo/p/fdp60598542
Mislead who? The illiterate?
I am waiting for your reaction when someone start selling cheap crappy meat sandwich as "no vegan sandwich".
Try shopping vegan sometime and you'll see that it's necessary to read every ingredient list no matter what it says on the label. So many manufacturers use butter or egg in their products and still slap some kind of plant label on there. Not a bad idea to know what you are eating in any case so reading all the packaging should be the default when buying something new.
No, thank you. I will stick to my steaks, roasted chickens, bbq ribs and pork chops. Delicious.
That shouldn't be allowed either.
Packaging must not be confusing. This is not a difficult concept. The consumers have the right to know what product they are buying without reading the small print.
What do I care, I'm not vegan. "No vegan sandwich" sounds like super crappy marketing though.
Hey, now you know what it's like for someone who doesn't eat meat who unexpectedly gets meat in their food.
Seriously though, do you not read labels on food you buy?
Sounds like a win to me. But I am yet to see a chicken sandwich pretending to be vegan.
But it's not a win. I don't want meat.
And examples of chicken sandwiches pretending to be vegan are....?
That's your example, not mine.
For me the problem is more like having to verify if, say, a Japanese curry menu item that only mentions curry, rice, tofu, and vegetables nonetheless has beef in the curry. Or a vegetable ramen might still have pork broth.
Or a ma po tofu entree may have beef in it, and it's so normalized that some restaurants don't even bother to mention that.
Products should be clearly labelled and it obviously should go both ways.
That sammich you posted as an example is pretty clearly labeled…
Not at all.
Would you be OK with sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
If it says no chicken I can be pretty sure that there is no chicken in it. If it says no vegan then what? There are no vegans in it? Whatever point you’re trying to make is not a good one.
Would you be OK with cheap meat sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
I still don’t know what ‘no vegan’ means. Do other products contain vegan?
So, would you be OK with cheap meat sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
Saying the same fucking thing over and over is not going to convince me.
Answer the question. Would you be OK with cheap meat sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
You answer the question lol. What the fuck does it mean?
So, will you be OK with cheap meat sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
That would depend entirely on what the fuck no vegan means.
I didn't say anything about "fuck no vegan" but this definitely sounds like a perfect slogan for any reasonable female student association.
You haven’t said anything this whole time.
So, back to the subject, since we weren't discussing people shagging vegans - will you be OK with cheap meat sandwiches sold as "no VEGAN"?
Nah I’m done. You can’t describe the terms you’re using so whats even the fuckin point?
So, are you?
Obviously misleading stuff like that should be banned, I agree, but "veggie/plant/fish burger" just isn't misleading.
The problem is that this industry does not regulate itself so it needs to be regulated.
See another one - small print "100% plant based" which can easily be overlooked when someone grabs a pack of frozen hot dogs:
The only real alternative would be directive that words "Vegan/plant based" must be in the same size and colour of font as the rest of the name (burger/sausage etc.) - but then we would hear how the terrible EU is stifling freedom of marketing/labeling/packaging.
It’s the very first thing right at the very tippy top. Please read the packaging of food before you buy it. Especially if it’s a brand you haven’t used before.
So according to you it would be OK to pack human feaces into a bag, put a picture of food with fucking big bold label "VEGAN TOFU" as long as small print says "made of human shit", yes?
Lmao
I thought so.
lol even.
If you think that a thing that has vegan slapped on it in multiple places and literally says "No Chicken" is misleading you might be a gigantic moron. Or you're illiterate, which, sucks, but also like ... Come on at least find a better example than one which is blatantly obviously not meat if you even take a cursory glance at it.
Why would it say "no chicken"? Perhaps it should also say "no shit", just to avoid any doubts?
There is another one - white "meat free" on a bright background and big, striking "smoked hot dogs". Not misleading for you?
Sorry you're right I did personally attack you, my bad. I think it isn't in your face but I think it's more so you see it, consider it and then realize if isn't meat but in your head you're wondering .... Well maybe I should try it.
Not like intentionally trying to mislead the consumer, it probably is easier to read when it's not at like shit pixel count but I saw the "meat free" before I read your comment. Anyways you're not personally a gigantic moron ok.
I mean, idk maybe you are I am too lazy to read your post history or care that much.