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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.
Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.
This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.
If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.
Rules:
-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.
-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.
-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.
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TOL: "I'm gonna boycott voting for Dems to teach the Dems a lesson. Next time they'll put up a progressive!"
Reality: Trump wins and Biden is the 2020 candidate
TOL: "I'm gonna boycott voting for Dems to teach the Dems a lesson. Next time they'll put up a progressive!"
Reality: Biden wins but Dems can't get passed the filibuster because of a slim majority.
Trump never gets prosecuted and GOP lays groundwork to end democracy and instill fascism if Trump wins next time
TOL: "I'm gonna boycott voting for Dems to teach the Dems a lesson. Next time they'll put up a progressive!"
Reality: Trump wins 2024 and now US democracy is gone, probably permenantly.
Newsome is most likely to be next Dem nominee
Do we expect anything less from these troglodytes?
I expect nothing, but a man can hope he can nudge a few fence sitters
This is a really convenient way to view the Democratic party's constant failures. It's always someone else's fault besides the ones in charge. -_-
Oh no, those poor powerless dems that keep winning elections and look the other way when one of their memebers breaks ranks to be the ACTUAL deciding factor.
This narrative is propaganda, that the DNC is entitled to a magically giant number of votes from people who don't exist and that's why they're always useless.
It's definitely not because the Democratic party is complicit in the oligarchy or anything...
it's voting, not marriage. you vote for the least harm to those you care about (or fucking should, duh).
it's not an ideological purity exam, it's a multi-year term and then you vote again. vote the best option you have, otherwise we're gonna have trumps forever.
I cannot fathom how hard it is to get people to understand this very simple thing.
I voted for Kamala
Neoliberalism failing to provide meaningful positive change makes apathetic voters
I can not fathom how hard it is to get people like you to understand that voters as a group do not and will never vote in their own self interests and logic. They vote with their feelings, and when nothing gets tangibly better under a leader, they vote them out.
lot of fucking good it does 'em
Does even less good to pretend like human beings will fundamentally change their individual behaviors en masse in between election cycles.
Dems are supposed to be the educated ones, if they give a shit about winning, they would have learned this fact about voters and enabled meaningful change to happen.
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.
What a weird way to handle the fact that people are stupid
continue to enable fascists you dope.
You're missing the point entirely, which seems to be the main problem the online left has.
The point is simple. I'll bold it for you.
THE US COLLAPSING INTO FASCISM WOULDNT BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IF KAMALA HAD WON
KAMALA WOULD HAVE HAD BETTER ODDS OF WINNING IF THE ONLINE LEFT DIDNT BOYCOTT THE VOTE AND ENCOURAGED OTHERS TO VOTE FOR HER.
BOYCOTTING THE VOTE CONTRIBUTED TO HER LOSS, THUS GIVING TRUMP THE VICTORY
THUS MARGINALIZED PEOPLE ARE BEING SENT TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN A GENOCIDE ON US SOIL
THUS DEMOCRACY HAS ENDED IN THE USA, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY NON-FASCIST TO WIN
Now let's do transitive property:
Millions of the left boycotted Kamala, even knowing about P2025 a year in advance, thus contributing to her loss.
Now the US is falling to literal fascism and starting a genocide against minorities on US soil.
Do you see why blaming everything on the Dems (who are certainly guilty) means nothing? There's clearly a colossal problem with the online left where they were duped by the millions onto inaction against fascism, which is surrender to fascism.