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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said Monday the government shutdown is on its way to being one of the longest in history unless Democrats accept the House-passed, GOP-crafted stopgap bill to reopen the government.

“We’re barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history, unless Democrats dropped their partisan demands and passed a clean, no-strings-attached budget to reopen the government and pay our federal workers,” Johnson said in a press conference on the 13th day of the government shutdown.

Congressional leaders have been locked in a standoff over government funding as Democrats demand that Republicans make concessions on health care, notably Affordable Care Act tax credits that are expiring at the end of the year. Republican leaders have refused to negotiate on health care during a shutdown, arguing that that Democrats must accept the “clean” funding stopgap the House passed in September — and which has failed to advance in the Senate seven times.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The [Johnson] Shutdown, it causes real pain for real people, veterans, the elderly people who rely upon these services

Wow you know what else causes real pain? The lifetime of crippling medical debt, collapse of coverage for the sickest among us, and skyrocketing premiums for everyone else. Y'all just seem to want it so badly.

Republicans had 15+ years to come up with the "replace" side of "repeal and replace" and have nothing to show for it. What a farce.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

What a farce.

Not incorrect, but "grift" is the term accepted in academia.

[–] HuskerNation@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I seriously think Americans just need to opt out of health insurance when the renewal period comes around.

I know it's a fantasy and would never happen but could you imagine if half the country all of a sudden just opted out of insurance? The stocks would crash overnight.

There would only be two outcomes, either a massive change in healthc.

Or more realistically a the GOP would pass a law making private insurance mandatory to save their money laundering scheme.

Fuck I hate health insurance I can't believe there's a fucking single person out there that would defend this fucked up system that we have but yet there are millions

Is my life's dream to dance on the ashes of the health insurance industry

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's not an option for many people, and that's what's scary as hell. For some it'll be impossible to ever price them out of insurance, because they need the care regardless of the debt they rack up. If insurance offsets even 10% that's a win.

Meanwhile in the healthy population, many will balk at the premiums, decide to drop the insurance and the whole house of cards falls down. GOP already got rid of the insurance mandate and that was a very popular move with their base. Slim chance mandatory coverage could be re-instated again.

Now the party is stuck and likely to let the entire system collapse. Maybe they'll bail out the hospitals and insurance companies along the way, at a much higher cost than getting people the care they needed, but it seems inevitable.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

the GOP would pass a law making private insurance mandatory to save their money laundering scheme.

This is already an aspect of the ACA, and that's imo the big problem with it. Of course my perfect version of a healthcare bill would be single payer Medicare for all where we're just taxed appropriately to cover universal healthcare, but that's not on the table for some fucking reason. The right wants everybody without money to just die and gatekeep healthcare to keep it for the wealthy only. The half measure compromise (ACA) was to keep healthcare costs low, especially if you have less income, but you pay a fine if you declined to pay for that coverage, so you may as well pay that money to a health insurance company and have health insurance instead; get something for that money. This raised the number of people with health insurance, but largely through extortion. The good outweighs the bad, but it is indirectly a subsidy to insurance companies to keep the industry afloat despite being a shitty value.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

"Concepts of a plan"