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President loses out to Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado as his dream of surpassing Barack Obama’s achievements continues to elude him

Donald Trump has lost out on the Nobel Peace Prize after the Norwegian committee responsible for awarding the honor chose Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado instead.

Asle Toje, deputy leader of the Nobel committee, had already signaled that Trump might not get it by suggesting that his aggressive campaigning for the accolade might count against him.

“These types of influence campaigns have a rather more negative effect than a positive one,” Toje said. “Because we talk about it on the committee. Some candidates push for it really hard, and we do not like it.”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

He thinks he can get for doing the same nothing Obama got his before he normalized killing US civilians...

I know it was 16 years ago and people might not remember, but he literally got a peace prize for the "promise of peace" and then later we found out he was drone striking US citizens during that time

trump sure as shit shouldn't get one, but Obama shouldn't have either.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Everyone acknowledges that Obama's Nobel Prize was a mistake -- even committee members.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/obama-peace-prize-1.3231064

I couldn't find a definitive link, but I remember that Obama was seriously considering declining the prize, or not traveling to accept it. In the end, he decided it was better diplomatically to accept it rather than snub the committee.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Yeah everyone knew it was a mistake shortly after the award. It's amazing when supporters of a politician were willing to criticize them...oh the good ol days.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

but Obama shouldn’t have either.

Fair, but I still love that it annoys Taco and his widdle fanboiz that the Blah guy got a prize their golden god-emperor will not get.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

OK, so what would your policy be to address the situation of US citizens joining with non-state groups and actively attacking the US? Like, say, Al-Qaida? International law of war is weak on non-state actors, classifying them as "irregulars" or bandits and relying on their host states to deal with them, which is unrealistic in many cases, and which fails to anticipate the rise of such groups with global reach. And the notion of adjudicating matters like this in the courts in advance makes no sense either.

Because I wouldn't shed a tear for anyone like that who got killed, whether by aerial bombardment, a drone strike, an artillery shell or a bullet. Al-Awlaki, the poster child for the drone-strike handwringers, was in an AQ camp in Yemen at the time his propagandistic ass was blown up. If ridding the world of him and his fellow jihadis means no Peace Prize, fine. Small price to pay.

And why is it that the same hand-wringers act as if drone strikes are somehow different than any other way of the military killing someone? The meme reeks of emotional manipulation. Dead's dead.

To declare an interest and give some context, I vocally and publicly opposed the second Gulf War and am against the US's habit of heavyhanded, ineffectual military interventions. But if someone's actually coming for you and you have the means to send them on to the afterlife, you're worse than a fool if you don't do it.