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Payback for the Opium Wars.
thatd be if it was the british getting opium surely?
https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm
It was more than the British. The Americans were quite involved too.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/american-old-money-opium-trade-fortunes/
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1830-1860/china-1
Not really... the US did this to itself.
no let me blame the CCCP for my horrific lifelong injuries it's more fun that way.
Because hurting more people who have nothing to do with the politics of it is justifiable at all...
Direct inheritors within a historically patrilineal society = nothing to do with. Where is this fictional universe where generational wealth doesn't exist?
They still had nothing to do with it. Benefiting in a vague way generations later doesn't make anyone capable of traveling back in time.
If you are gratified by turning people into addicts then you're a cruel asshole.
In no way supporting America/Britain or Chinas actions.
But the connection between wealth and opportunity 200 years ago to today is not as vague as you've made it out to me. There's a reason that the groups that hold advantage over others have remained the same for the past several centuries (European colonialism, chattel slavery, race science etc).
So what? Can the Chinese workers murder the political and business leaders because Mao murdered millions decades ago and they benefit from it today? Do the sins of the parents pass through their entire bloodline and forever? Turning people, who didn't have anything to do with the opium wars, into addicts over some centuries old desire for vengeance is just cruelty. You also aren't just affecting people who had a small numbers of their ancestors involved but people who never had any ancestors involved who live in America, people from all over the world. Just target white people, too? So it's now a racially targetted form of violence, too?
Can Japan and Korea murder Chinese people because of the wars of the past? Can the Chinese kill Japanese for the atrocities of WW2? Should the distinct non-Han Chinese ethnic groups seek vengeance on the Han Chinese for their historic acts of genocidal superiority, violence, forced relocation and theft that they prosper from today? There is reasons Han Chinese hold advantage over others and have remained the same for Millenia, afterall.
Not advocating for the perpetuation of racial violence, even though it is where Western Europe and its settler nations have derived the lion's share their disproportionate wealth. Simply pointing out that those advantages have passed down from generation to generation via traditionally patrilineal modes of inheritance. Failing to acknowledge that would be an ignorant reflection on history.
You're just using it as an excuse to be cruel to people who never hurt you because you hate them. Making addicts out of powerless Americans because the British rulers 150 years ago did something similar is nothing but cruelty and vengeance.