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Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

It’s a sharp rise from 18 months ago, when 19% of Americans said the same.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago (18 children)

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

Suprisingly, both of them are on the same side of the barricade.

Yea for sure, suck the copium. There is a reason why patriots rhymes perfectly with idiots

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

magats are not patriots.

Patriots love their country and criticize it when its wrong.

Nationalists create a fantasy narrative of what their concept of a "country" is, and think that's the best thing in the world.

I probably fit into the category of "patriot", I love the multiculturalism of the US, I love the progress that has been made on Civil Rights and the protection of people with disabilities and recognition of the rights of LGBT+ people, I love the constitution (well... some parts need to be tweaked), the 1st and 2nd amendments, separation of powers, the idea that "American" is not a race, but an ideal; And I do recognize that the history is dark and those dark history should be taught so we can prevent those from happening, and I do NOT support this administration's blatant violation of the constitution and anyone involved should be thrown in jail.

These "nationalists" don't even love the country, they do not support freedom, they are traitors, and should be dealt with accordingly.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 5 months ago

Patriots love their country and criticize it when its wrong.

This line turned on a light bulb deep in the recesses of my brain that were formed while being raised by rural conservatives.

In my conservative world at least, punching down was pretty much universal, not just a political thing. You don't criticize your parents/betters or honestly even disagree with them many times, but you can expect criticism of your own every move. Generational trauma isn't a single event, after all.

Or, if you're lucky, the parent is the type to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that everything is perfect.

So with those kinds of traits plus the very hierarchical thinking, you can see how you simply do not criticize your people in charge, your religion, etc.

But that's only for YOUR people. If somebody is an OTHER then that means they are nowhere on your hierarchy (the correct one, obvs) and are therefore worth less than the lowest peon on your side.

Soooooo, that was a long way of saying these people probably THINK they love their country because they treat it with the same honor, deference, and "see no evil" that they give their own grandmother.

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