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Oh Jiminy Christmas, you really are dense.

I literally acknowledged in my first comment that payment in the form of capital is a perfectly fine incentive under the current system. So no, those quotes don’t “refute my point.” And nowhere in that thread did anyone refute my actual point.

So my point, that capital isn’t essential to creation, still stands. You even admitted as much to other commenters when you said:

It’s (capital) not the only way things can ever get done under any circumstances.

So yes, exactly. Thank you for proving my argument for me.

And yes, if you wanted to refute me, you’d have to prove money is the only way something gets created. Otherwise, it’s not essential. Basic logic.

Did you have to refute it? Nope, I sure as hell didn't say you did. You could’ve let it stand, ignored it, or even agreed. Instead, you went with:

Anyway, you haven’t made any points that stand here.

Followed by:

Your refutation is there in black and white, and not just from me.

So which is it? Did you actually refute me, or are you just bluffing because you’ve got nothing?

And nice try with the strawman, but I never said capital can be “removed with no effect.” I said it can be removed while still being possible to get the same outcome. We would obviously have to change how we managed the distribution of goods, and decide if there even was an incentive to continue creating the specific "thing". (And if I can't correct your misusage of "irony", you sure as hell don't get to tell me what I meant. None of this "rules for thee, not for me" BS you're trying to pull.)

I have even repeatedly clarified as much when you asked if it could be removed with "no result":

Not quite “no result.” But money is the only part of the current process to create a phone that can be removed and still have the same phone…
Would we have built the exact same device without capital based economy up until now? Obviously not. But if money vanished tomorrow in a post-scarcity world, would we suddenly be incapable of making the same phone? Again, obviously not.

At this point, it’s clear, you’re not debating, you’re just nursing a chip on your shoulder and lashing out at anyone who questions your golden cow.

Have a good one. (<-That was ironic)