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Oh, hello again, mind keeping your responses to my comments under one thread? It's inconvenient to jump around like this.
Obviously, in a capitalist system, a worker without the means to cover their needs won’t work without pay. But that only shows that pay is a mechanism of this system, not the goal itself. If another economic structure were in place, people would act according to the incentives and access points that system provided to meet their needs and wants.
We can already see this in practice today: retirees, hobbyists, and people with spare time often volunteer, create, or collaborate in groups for reasons that have nothing to do with money. Their motivation comes from purpose, community, or fulfillment. Proof that creation does not require capital to exist, only a framework that connects effort with meeting human needs.
Iv yet to see a single volunteer system that doesn't require capital. Even unpaid volunteer labor requires capital to sustain the ability for people to volunteer.
Go work with any non profit ever. Hell go just start trying to do anything at all. Capital is required even if free labor is used. :/
Just because the retiree does something for free doesn't make it free. Every system requires input for output.