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[–] jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip 85 points 2 months ago (35 children)

This is kind of an odd take imo. FOSS is important because it doesn't matter who the creators or maintainers are. Even if all of the people OP listed were in that room and agreed to write backdoors into their software for the government, others could just fork those projects and the community could move on without the bad actors. (I know that's easier said than done, but it is feasible.)

I'm not about to start cheering for Richard Stallman just because he's not MAGA. He had some pretty bad takes about the Epstein scandal.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (28 children)

stallman is a creep, but i found it weird how those comments in particular are what finally got rid of him considering how... tame they were compared to his earlier behavior. iirc he commented on an event where an elderly colleague of his had been propositioned by one of epsteins "girls" and turned it down, and stallman said something to the effect of the old guy couldn't have known she was being coerced so should not be seen as a guilty party (the age of the woman in question was not made clear).

like, compared to asking female colleagues to lay down with him on a filthy mattress in his office and eating his own toenails during lectures that's downright pedestrian.

edit: okay the age of the woman was pointed out to him later and he responded with his usual tact. of course.

we know the man is completely unable to read people or social signals, and bases everything he says entirely on statistics. the biggest controversy before the epstein thing was when he said he didn't think it would hurt minors if they were allowed sexual relations earlier, which was pretty damn creepy. but the fact that he then asked a psychologist about it and completely changed his tune instantly afterwards tells me that he is a man that has no human instinct. he runs on pure data.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

What makes Stallman a creep? I believe many people are judging him by his nerdy look and personality, the guy is really just being himself and not putting up any masks, i would argue any other acting elegant for social status is a bigger creep

https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's unfortunately kind of well know that he's a creepy dude. I can't cite specific examples but I have heard pretty credible reasons to believe this in the past.

He does good work in the FOSS community and has been correct about basically everything he predicted regarding the future of proprietary software.

But somewhat ironically, it seems like every facet of his life is filled with kinda creepy anti-social behaviour.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what's your definition of creepy?

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One example

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/20870050/richard-stallman-resigns-mit-free-software-foundation-epstein

Edit: I guess people don't think that is creepy to condone and excuse sexual assault against children.

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